isitafox Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Not sure on the exact geo but I think I remember Ali or Mark saying somewhere that the standard Zoot bars almost pointed down. I remember trying to rotate them into a comfy streety position and no matter what I did they felt horrible to hold, was as if you couldn't get them slightly swept back. I'll have a search and see if I can find the post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Not sure on the exact geo but I think I remember Ali or Mark saying somewhere that the standard Zoot bars almost pointed down. I remember trying to rotate them into a comfy streety position and no matter what I did they felt horrible to hold, was as if you couldn't get them slightly swept back. I'll have a search and see if I can find the post! Ah ok, well due to my limited experience on trials bikes; I can't really compare them to anything. I just know that I will definitely benefit from a lighter pair! Only just seen the video you posted, some decent riding and I'm loving the green rims. Oh to be able to do all that! Edited November 11, 2012 by showurcolours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Trust me the geo of the standard bars is awful, going at it from a what can be afforded first point of view (not saying you are but if I had one again) I'd go for some TT high rise bars first, then sort the forks (I had some 2012 Urbans, not sure how it would ride with Inspired but these were great) and finally if at all the stem. Once you get some different forks on you should have a bit more steerer to play with so you can bump the front up. I'm surprised you rate changing the stem so low! That's my first port of call really want it shorter and steeper, I hadn't really considered the bars might be a problem to be honest. I have a slight problem in that I've been a mod rider for YEARS. So although I know what I'm trying to achieve getting the right setup is a little haphazard for street. I basically want my hands in the sky and the front end to be light is what I'm gathering. p.s. nice little video mate, can't wait to knock one out myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) i never had a zoot, but had other 24" wheel bikes. i had an ashton edd tongue, then an inspired fourplay. now im on an onza blade mod (20" front, 19" rear wheel). the absolute best upgrades you can do to a standard zoot are new(lighter) bars and stem with a different geo, something like a system ex or trialtech 90x35, and trialtech high rise bars, or tryall rage bars. you will easily knock a kilo off the front of your bike and make it a damn sight easier to ride. then i would suggest some tnn lgv`s, or adv`s, or heatsink yellow v brake pads. then it`ll ride like a dream. the bar height on my mod is higher than what i had on my inspired, i have 30mm of stackers under my stem plus tryall raised rage bars. it bunny hops amazingly well for a mod. Edited November 11, 2012 by bing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 When the f**k did handlebars get so expensive?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm with you on the height thing, always ran super high front ends on all my bikes so I understand where you're coming from. I've also just read that the standard stem is 110 x 20 which surprised me as I didn't think it was that long so changing that will make a hell of a difference, if you swap to something like a System Ex the clamp height is smaller so you'll get a couple of stackers on there also. I suppose the stem is what helps make it more trialsy than pure street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) When the f**k did handlebars get so expensive?! bars arent cheap. not for decent ones anyway. trialtechs are about £50 now i believe? a system ex stem is 20 quid. saying that i ended up running a 120 x 30 stock stem cos i was doing comps as well at the time Edited November 11, 2012 by bing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 p.s. nice little video mate, can't wait to knock one out myself Video, or something else? hahahaha bars arent cheap. not for decent ones anyway. trialtechs are about £50 now i believe? a system ex stem is 20 quid. saying that i ended up running a 120 x 30 stock stem cos i was doing comps as well at the time Yeah TT High Risers are £50 from Tartybikes (black or white, and weight in at just under half of Zoot bars) - I know this because I will be getting them haha...just the hard choice of black or white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Everyone should bash out a zoot video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Everyone should bash out a zoot video! Haha, agreed! When I get a bit better and more confident on mine then I definitely will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty66 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Will 'bash out a vid' of my lad when he gets his this weekend, but be warned he's 11 and never done trials before ! He thinks he'll be as good as you lot once he gets his bike !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 He thinks he'll be as good as you lot once he gets his bike !!!!!! Nice to see that in 11 years my thought process hasn't changed much from an 11 year olds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'm in for a zoot video. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty66 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Yey it's arrived ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Yey it's arrived ! Awesome! Kinda jealous to see the platform pedals...my shins have taken a battering cus the model I have has caged pedals haha. Ordered TT High Risers and some TT foam grips today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty66 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 It kinda looks cool to me but I know nothing! I've always tried to keep up and get involved with my kids sports , I know the rules and positions of rugby and even the footy offside rule but learning about bloody high risers,system clamps stems and forks is a bit of a challenge for a 44year old mum haha! But I'll keep asking you lovely guys and maybe become an expert although my 16 year old lad is mortified that his little bro has got me into this forum! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George6512 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Just a pic of mine to show the bar and stem combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 It kinda looks cool to me but I know nothing! I've always tried to keep up and get involved with my kids sports , I know the rules and positions of rugby and even the footy offside rule but learning about bloody high risers,system clamps stems and forks is a bit of a challenge for a 44year old mum haha! But I'll keep asking you lovely guys and maybe become an expert although my 16 year old lad is mortified that his little bro has got me into this forum! you need any help at all, just shout. hope the bike turns out ok for him, been in to see the guy this morning. he was well chuffed to have sold it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Just a pic of mine to show the bar and stem combo. Sweeet Zoot what bar and stem is it out of curiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMPIRE V12 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I just thought i would throw my zoot in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty66 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Here it is ! He said he can already do an endo ,bunny hop and wheelie on it. It looks a bit big for him I think but we were sort of expecting that. He says the reach to bars is a little too much, but loves the fact that it feels so light compared to his bmx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George6512 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I have Trial tech high risers with a Trial tech stem mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showurcolours Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I have Trial tech high risers with a Trial tech stem mate. Ah sweet, haven't seen silver high risers before Yes Vamp~ your Zoot is lovely I'll add a picture of mine tomorrow once it's got the new bars on Here it is ! He said he can already do an endo ,bunny hop and wheelie on it. It looks a bit big for him I think but we were sort of expecting that. He says the reach to bars is a little too much, but loves the fact that it feels so light compared to his bmx. Glad to hear he's enjoying it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Your son kind of looks like he's plugged directly into the floor in the 2nd pic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMPIRE V12 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 zoots are really good bikes to learn on ill never get rid of mine unless it snaps and thank you showurcolours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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