AdamR28 Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Tree yes, Simple no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Simple ones are great I've owned one on one of my previous BMX's and then upgraded to a Eclat one which was pretty good also. Tree have made straight pull spokes that fit 20" too, but are stupidly priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 my road bike has Mavic aksium race wheels, they have flange less hubs, and radially laced on non drive side on the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 what about the straight pull spoke hubs? how're they for trials? or do we gotta wait to find out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 what about the straight pull spoke hubs? how're they for trials? or do we gotta wait to find out? Tom McMillan was running some that he got from a while back I think... not sure how he got on with them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 straight spokes have got to be an improvement, i imagine they will become the norm in premium cycles, not having a bend in the spoke can only make it stronger and easier to product, and lighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 lighter? Maybe not. A nipple, it figures, weighs more than the elbow part of a spoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 straight spokes have got to be an improvement, i imagine they will become the norm in premium cycles, not having a bend in the spoke can only make it stronger and easier to product, and lighter? I had to true a wheel on a Giant that had straight pull spokes. Constantly spinning spokes = hassle... Anyways, can't really say I've had that many problems with regular spokes. Good wheel build, good hub, good rim, good spokes = good times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 i've never had any issues, and i'm usually in the mantra of if it ain't broken... but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be wanting better things. never thought about the spoke twisting, i presumed the end would be flat/shaped or something. i bet it's easier to replace a broken spoke on a straigh pull wheel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's not particularly difficult on an elbow-pull wheel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 wouldn't it be harder to change if you snap it? as you'd have to take off the sides as apposed to just poking it through. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be wanting better things. I guess so, I'm just usually skeptical of the 'latest and greatest' in the MTB and road worlds because it's usually a massive load of bullshit. The spokes are just a flattened end, so on the one I was working there wasn't anything to really dig into the hub or anything. It meant that on the tighter ones they just span which was pretty frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I guess so, I'm just usually skeptical of the 'latest and greatest' in the MTB and road worlds because it's usually a massive load of bullshit. The spokes are just a flattened end, so on the one I was working there wasn't anything to really dig into the hub or anything. It meant that on the tighter ones they just span which was pretty frustrating. Couldnt you 'key' the spokes? like have a 6 sided allen bit (like a spoke nipple) where the spoke went through the hub? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 You could, but straight pull spokes are expensive enough as it is without making them a lot more expensive to produce. The good thing about straight pull and conventional spokes is that they're pretty easy to make - if you check out this video you'll see what I mean: If you had to introduce a step where they needed to press it into some sort of hex head it'd make it pretty tricky to produce like that. Even just having a little lip of some sort that matched up to the hub would be fine, but again that's still complicating things. Similarly, it seems like most people don't really have a problem with cheap, easily available regular spokes and hubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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