ChrisTrials2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 If I had an Sd7 lever and caliper, with a linear slick cable, and fitted with Tnn beleay pads, what would it be like compared to an 04 HS33. My frame has an inbuilt booster as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Bite - no. Noise - no. Hold - yes, probably better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC12345678910 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) we talking front/rear, grind/no grind, state of grind, what? Set right, with just a little spring tension, Vee will be lighter to pull, and you will enjoy the benefit of not having to have your pads a fag papers distance away from a laser straight wheel (though this last one is benefical regardless) to get a sorted brake, plus with Speed dial you get just the 'right' feel for you. Here's what I did if your seriously considering a mag for vee switch. Find a set of arms, anything wil do the job, this ain't the important bit in my expirience; so long as the springs are good you'll have no problem, buy pads, (inspired fats, smooth rim, slight dab of tar would be my choice) the sd7 lever, and a well greased wilko cable with metal ends. You will probs also need adapters. As I see it: Neon - pretty and light but lack ajustabillity, not that that has ever been a problem on my front brake Onza - more ajustabillity, same weight but a weaker design, have snapped one side before by clipping the cable bolt on the back brake when doing a fakie (was the final straw knida thing though, they are still really good) Heatsink - The benefits of both with more ajustment tha onza (4th hole is handy), almost definately the strongest set, mine have been around a fair few peeps, must be 5 mabye 6 yrs old, still look really good but yet to use them. That should give you a setup worth keeping on your bike. Sorry for the essay and i know I went a bit off topic but the only way your are gonna know is by trying it, pick your parts, time your time setting them up and have a go of it. Enjoy. Edited October 24, 2012 by CC12345678910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 vees are rad, no bite is wierd at first but the sheer power/hold it offers makes up for this, easier to set up/reset, more adjustability. onza veedapters are shit, heatsink or neon, echo are ok but i snapped one before... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Forgive me, I'm a Vee noob. Why no bite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 No (well, much less) pad wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I am too. I'm running a vee up front. Acera arms, shitty clarkes cable and an FR5 lever with Inspired slims, dead grind. It's fantasic. Brutally powerful, and relatively stiff feeling with little mush to the lever feel. Will be improved further with the TNN Backings I'll be running soon! I'd love to try one on the rear, but I cant be bothered forking out for adaptors, arms, cables and a new lever. The ones I've tried on others bikes have all been awesome. Vee's on smooth rims offer tonnes of bite. Vee's on a grind less so, but the hold is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 So a maggi bites because it has pad wobble? Learn something new everyday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 No (well, much less) pad wobble. So a maggi bites because it has pad wobble? Learn something new everyday... As a kid, like somewhere around the 9-11 range I guess maybe a bit younger, I used to undo the bolt in the middle of u-brakes on cheap kids bikes so that the brakes 'worked better' for endos and skids that you do at that age (or still do in my case). I guess it must have been for the same reason. It worked real well until me and my best mate at the time were hurtling down a bike path along the seafront at Winchelsea and the vibrations shook the bolt off of his brake and he overtook me in the air before landing on his face... We didn't do it as much after that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 So a maggi bites because it has pad wobble? Learn something new everyday... Yeah, they act pretty much like a wedge. That's one of the reasons why hard pads (Phat pads, Heatsink yellow) offer 'good bite' and are really loud - they don't squash as much during the initial application of the brake, just vibrate instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 The more vibration/wobble =more bite! When you add a booster vibration/wobble is reduced so is the bite! Think i got it right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Why does so many say that every V-brake is silent? Mine where loud as hell on the rear! Much darker sound though. but I loved my vee's, they're really good and easy to set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 My front vee works really well. Avid lever Clarkes Cable Shimano acera arms CNC Coust pads Medium Grind. It's very loud and has bite? what i have noticed is when the calipers a tighened right up, they still have forward and backward movement This could be the reason my brake works so well maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Why does so many say that every V-brake is silent? Because most are. Mine were very loud too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 ultimate arms tend to be quieter because they move less, most vee arms have a little wobble which can make them noisy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Mine were Ultimates and really noisy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Haha, sorry. But I am aware that is a weird one. I have no idea why, probably my bodged pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Haha, sorry. But I am aware that is a weird one. I have no idea why, probably my bodged pads oh god, knowing you bodge removes makes me lose hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 This was about... 8? years ago. I call it a bodge, but it was some brazed steel adaptors to fit HS33 pads to V brakes, which were actually pretty nice (excepting the screws). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 frame can influence the noise too... when i swapped from a zoot to an ashton effect, both have dedicated vee mounts, but the way my brake performed was totally different, i ended up getting rid of the booster on the ashton just to make it feel 'normal' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Seriously no bite. I don't believe there could be no bite. Less bite than a disc? It'll be on the rear, on heatsink adaptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Seriously no bite. I don't believe there could be no bite. Less bite than a disc? It'll be on the rear, on heatsink adaptors. It has to have some amount of bite, if it hasn´t,the wheel wouldn´t stop Sure it has more bite than disc, some setups can actually have the same amount of bite as maggie. So as always, it´s all about the setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 It's a smooth rim, would that be bitey when it's dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 It's a smooth rim, would that be bitey when it's dry With small dab of tar, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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