dann2707 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) This is a right pain! I go to put my front mod wheel in my viz forks, completely slammed in the drop outs however it is right to one side. An even bigger problem as I have front disk now so the rotor isn't parallel to the pads meaning it's rubbing all the time.. Any ideas how to sort this? Never encountered anything like this before . Thanks a lot. Edited October 10, 2012 by dann2707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Weird, is the dropout worn down on one side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 When I ran front disc, I found that turning the bike upside down and putting the front wheel in like that helped a lot. Not sure about rear though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 First instinct is to say the wheel's not true but if it messes with the hub that's out. File the dropouts until it's ok. Or if they're new forks, return them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Weird, is the dropout worn down on one side? Nope! That's the strange thing. It looks perfect. Tried it in my echo Urbans and its straight as anything so it's not the wheel slash hub. Almost like a manufacturing defect? not happy as the disk is always rubbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 New fork time I guess? Or file the dropouts like Revolver suggested. Have you tested the forks with other mod wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 If I filed the dropouts though, how would I ensure its absolutely perfect? Just seems a bit of a risky manovure I don't think I'm competent in tackling haha. Nope not tested any other wheels but can do asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think the real question is how didn't Neil notice this the whole time he had the bike?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 If I filed the dropouts though, how would I ensure its absolutely perfect? Just seems a bit of a risky manovure I don't think I'm competent in tackling haha. Nope not tested any other wheels but can do asap. Test another wheel, if it's not straight either... Then send forks back if you can, if not possible at all. Just file it down and keep putting the wheel back in until it's straight. That's how you can ensure it's perfect, as filing it won't wear it down particularly fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilf Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 As a temporary measure you could maybe use very thin washers to shim it over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Use a spirit level to measure the dropouts xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 A tiny bit of filling on the offending dropout wont do them any harm Maybe whack in your urbans for the time being if its bothering you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 You sure it's one issue? Is the wheel actually leaning over at an angle in the forks, or is it just dished over to the side? If the wheel is leaning over in the forks, you could file the offending dropout to get the wheel straight, but bear in mine that it could spazz the disc alignment up further, be extra careful lol. If the wheel is just dished over to the side, (far more likely), then the disc issue may not be linked. In this case, I'd recommend getting the disc mounts faced and shimming the brake up properly (buy proper shims, not just washers). I'd ignore the wheel being dished a bit, doesn't really matter with a disc wheel (within reason). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Pics? I reckon its a manufacturing defect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Thanks for all the replies I don't think it's the wheel that's the problem as said, I stuck it in my urbans and it's as straight as anything, absolutely perfectly aligned like it should be. I'd go back to my urbans but the steerer is really short so I couldn't use any stem stackers which wouldn't normally be a problem but with this stem and bar combo it's gonna feel mega too low. No up to fronts for me.. ha Got a few pics. Measuring from the rim wall to the inside edge of the forks. One side Other side Edited October 11, 2012 by dann2707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss-Higgy Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Try tightening the spokes on the opposite side to the lean? Or loosening the side that leans? Then re tension the lot? Just an idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I don't think it's the wheel that's the problem as said, I stuck it in my urbans and it's as straight as anything, absolutely perfectly aligned like it should be. plus that wouldn't help my disc rubbing issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Try tightening the spokes on the opposite side to the lean? Or loosening the side that leans? Then re tension the lot? Just an idea? If the disk rubs the pads, i.e the disk isnt true to the caliper, it isnt an issue with the dish of the wheel. Unless he's unfortunite enough to have a wheel thats not dished correctly, and brake mount that needs to be re-surfacedDam, snaked by dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 This is how it looks, pics taken a few nights ago. Admittedly the brake does still work amazing but it just constantly rubs which sounds horrendous and I feel like i'm on an exercise bike when im pedaling places.. Look at the shocking angle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 That's an issue with the disk mount dude, no doubt about that! Looks like its bent out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I thought that as soon as I posted them pics but then again why would the wheel be so far out too? Doesn't make sense? God damn itttttttttt why is stuff never simple I just want to ride my bike hahaProbably worth just admitting the forks are f**ked then grr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 looks like the disk side dropout/fork leg is twisted mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnnBee Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I think the real question is how didn't Neil notice this the whole time he had the bike?! Hardly rode it Carl. Mod felt shocking so I just jumped back on stock. Never noticed it.Drill some holes and twat it with a hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hardly rode it Carl. Mod felt shocking so I just jumped back on stock. Never noticed it. Drill some holes and twat it with a hammer. Best advice ever On a serious note dan, you might get away with using an adjustable spanner, and gently bend the disk tab back in. It properly wont be perfect, but you cant make it any worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 To try and solve the disc issue, if you've got a good local bike shop you could get them to face the disc mount for you, then use some thin Hope spacers to get the caliper perfectly aligned with the rotor? Takes some of the guesswork out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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