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SamKidney

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I know, another 24" tyre thread...

Looking for a new tyre for my 24".

The Bettys tread pattern looks far more suited to trials than my Fat Albert does, but is there any marked increase in grip?

I was going to snatch up the last Super Tacky High Roller off TrialBikes.com but some sly buggers beaten me to it.

Id put up with my Albert but its grip is shocking when the going gets even mildly damp.

Also, what are 24" Swampthings like? Could be another viable option, along with the 60a Maxxis Highroller, but Im told that that will give little to no marked improvement to grip.

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have you looked at the Halo choir boy, they look like a real good tread for winter.

Might give that a go actually. I like the idea of the supposedly "soft, super grippy compound".

Would like to see a durometer reading, just to see what compound Im really looking at.

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halo's avalible in a 'lite' version too....

anyone looked at the schwlbe space? cheap as chips at mt lbs at 9 notes

I was looking at that.

In the end i went for a moto digger, they are light and have a soft sidewall, if need be the stanley blade will edit the tread.

Might give that a go actually. I like the idea of the supposedly "soft, super grippy compound".

Would like to see a durometer reading, just to see what compound Im really looking at.

If you get one let me know what they are like,

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Samuel Kidney.

Trials-forum's test dummy since 07-June-2010.

You even noticed you spelt simple wrong in your Sig.

Sorry for the little bit off topic, but if you've saw the "because simple" graphics you would see why I wrote "SIMPIE". Its almost as bad as the because "gepler" thats supposed to say "color".

Back on topic, I got the big betty because at the time I only found good reviews for it (I probobly should have looked more) but the compoud isn't nearly as nice as even the 60a maxxis.

It sounds like you've just about got your mind made up, but if your up for it I'd personally like to hear a good review on the swampthing since I haven't found any from trials riders yet. If I can get the cash together and you haven't tried it I might just go ahead and try the tire. The wet season is coming up and I'll die if I can't replace the big betty.

Good luck!

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Big Betty -

First thoughts look like a big tire and feels like a light good weight, fittted to bike was all off round, tried ages to get it to run round, buffed of tail so filed that down to hear no farty noise

Ride 25psi felt bouncy but rimed out a lot and was squirmy and griped ok, 30 psi didnt bottom out but grip was terrible so ..... swapped it with swampthing

Swamping42a -

First thought wide treads mabey more punctures , fitted fine and runs nice and round , looks really small compared to big betty 20psi felt bouncy and same bottom out as big betty so more solid sidewalls but grip is really good and stable just feels like a better tire and runs hell of a lot faster pedal ups are so much better now, who knew??

Big betty light and slow roller and not great grip

Swampthing grippy , stable low running pressures and faster roller

Would like to know what like a highroller 42a vs a swampthing 42a would be like, is the highroller slower rolling than swampthing due to be more of a square tread

Also is there any front soft compounds out there

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Bryan, the moto digger is the softest front tyre I've seen. Also it has a memory foam rebound? I don't understand it myself...

Bryan, the moto digger is the softest front tyre I've seen. Also it has a memory foam rebound? I don't understand it myself...

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Ive managed to source two Maxxis 24" 42a Super Tacky High Rollers! :dance:

Will definately give the Halo Choir Boy a go during summer. Want to save those Maxxis for winter riding. Like black gold!

Swampthing sounds pretty good. Its the tread pattern that makes me think I'd be dealing with constant punctures though.

Cheers for the news on the big betty. Sounds identical to my Fat Albert in terms of feel. Saved me some money there!

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The Alberts outer most tread seems to fold on anything and loose grip if you dont have most of the tyre on, i.e: Just making a sidehop.

The bigger block type tread I had on my mod and stock would grip on anything. Even my old Echo tyre with a hard compound gripped better than this tyre.

I find the deep, small tread on the Schwalbe makes it pretty unstable too, in addition to its thin sidewalls unless ran at a high pressure.

Keeping it for summer though. It makes a nice dry weather tyre for riding TGS.

Compound plays a huge part though. My Schwalbe was all over the place in Leeds on Tuesday, whereas Brads bald high roller gripped on everything.

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I've had a choir boy lite, and in my opinion, they feel very cheap, they're a really narrow 2.35 too, more like an old Kujo 2.25 and have a lip that sits over the edge of the rim, limiting brake pad positioning a little bit if you have a small braking surface.

I wouldn't bother, too small for a rear, and too cheap & nasty for the front.

A moto digger is much bigger & grippier, they do wear really quick on the street though.

Read some reviews on the choir boy, they're not very good

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No problem, I'm pretty sure they're just some cheapy "duro" type tyre with a Halo logo stuck on it (they peel off)

That sounds about right. Most times when companies say shit like "Super soft grippy compound" it'll just be some generic tat. Unless it's one of the 'good' tyre companies, it's fairly meaningless.

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