Daymhe'sgood Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Hello TF! Let me start off by saying that I am a returning member who used to waste his time on here back in 2004-2008. Anyway I have recently got back into trials (currently unemployed so guess who has time on his hands) and I fixed my old bike back together after having left it alone since 2008 (I am rockin' a 2004 pitbull). So anyway I have a few questions: For those guys who have been riding for a decent amount of time (say 2years+), can you static jump (on foot I mean and with no run up) slightly lower, about the same or higher than you can sidehop? The reason I ask is because both my sidehop and my static jump without a bike is about the same height and I was wondering if this was indeed the limiting factor. Secondly, I have noticed that everybody is riding a high BB rise nowadays! What happened there? My pitbull I think has 00mm or maybe +10mm BB rise at the absolute most and this was totally normal back when long low and silver roamed the streets. What advantage does this high-rise BB confer, if any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 hey welcome back, if you think about it when you are on the back wheel a higher bb will make you sit further back so it is easier to do back wheels moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 This is my fourth year riding. My max side height is 51", but I cant match that from a static jump on my feet. Definitely not the limiting factor. The length of the bike adds leverage, and the tyre adds bounce, meaning you can, after a while riding and grasping sidehops, go higher on a bike. High bottom brackets are awesome! But not everyones a fan. High BB tends to give more rear wheel control, and makes static moves far easier Ive found and gives more ground clearance (for those that ride natural, comps or technical tgs/ street). I really like it. +70 is my preferred height on mod, 24" and stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I can static jump way higher than I can sidehop, but I dislike sidehops so never really do them, true story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I can sidehop a lot higher then I can static jump. I agree with Ali side hops a boring, I don't know how people can go out and only try side hops. Natural trials is much better, it's at least the roots of the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I can sidehop higher than I can static jump, but then I guess that sorta makes sense as although I hate sidehops with a passion, I practise them a hell of a lot more than I do jumping up a wall sans bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerictgm Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) You get what you train for. I hate sidehops, so mine is only 60cm, but on my feet I can static jump on 1.25m. Edited September 24, 2012 by clerictgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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