Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 just been offered a 2012 echo 24 for $760 from aliexpess surely that cant be right? crazy isnt it, ive seen one for $800, from a seller with loads of really positive feedback. seen his website which top end road bikes as well. Emailed the guy, he replied within half an hour, really helpful, bike could be here within 15-20 days and would only have cost me £491...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 i used the chat thing so contact was instant, asked if they would do a price match on a few bits that were cheaper but from different sellers and they instantly undercut the other prices haha ruthless selling..... down side is if you order you'll have to order all the bits in one go with the posting cost being a tad expensive (but fair) hence i enquired about a full bike, i want one but don't want to get ripped off........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 That seller whos link i posted earlier has free postage via EMS to the UK, maybe worth a look?? My thinking is if im getting the full echo 24 bike for £491 then i can upgrade/change with parts from tartybikes and the bike would still cost less then the UK retail..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 the one for 760 is inc. postage, i linked the seller to the one you put up haha i had a look at the spec i was offered and other than a stem rear rim there isn't much to upgrade its a bargin, a suspicious one at that. you could always get the upgrades from the same seller would be a cheaper option, plus they love a good haggle over money in china. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 hahah they love a good haggle, im really tempted but i need more evidence from people that have bought bikes from the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 the one i was talking to has a few 'items' that has someones order in it, i recognise the username from on here somewhere i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Im still nervous about taking the plunge, but its such a good deal if its genuine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 been thinking about ordering somthing cheapish, an acceptable loss. then again a scammer would be wise to this and wait for a substantial order to fist you with hahaha. 400 quid on a whim is a bit steep though then again it could be legit, i bet its stupid cheap direct from deng's factory gift shop....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 been thinking about ordering somthing cheapish, an acceptable loss. then again a scammer would be wise to this and wait for a substantial order to fist you with hahaha. 400 quid on a whim is a bit steep though then again it could be legit, i bet its stupid cheap direct from deng's factory gift shop....... My point exactly, mite just suck it up and buy from Tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 if its paypal you can get your cash back any way, the escrow thing is supposed to be safe but i've never heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 nah no paypal, but their payment protection plan: http://www.aliexpress.com/buyerprotection/index.html seems good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 thats the escrow thing, but i dont get how they 'hold' the money untill you give the ok. i wouldn't send anything unless i had the cash for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 The site is like Amazon, a site that houses loads of sellers sites housed under one roof. The 'site' i.e Aliexpress is a middle man between you and the retailer, so technically the middle man is paying the retailer if that makes sense, and your paying the middle man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 i get what your saying, but it states the seller recives no money untill you say its ok to send it. meaning they post it to you having not had a penny, this is what makes no sence to me. then again the way some countrys deal with money also confuses me, saudi is a good example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 i'll be honest im not bothered when the seller gets the money as long as i get the bike and dont get shafted lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 haha it sounds like their trying t o hard to give you peace of mind, usualy a sign of a scam, like when something says its 'high quality' its normaly utter shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Yep, untill i see or hear physical proof its genuine im not parting with a penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunky_bifta Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was looking into this, after customs tax/import tax, you aint saving that much! Think i worked it out that you saved like £100 or summin, not worth it if it turns up faulty and say you need to return it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was looking into this, after customs tax/import tax, you aint saving that much! Think i worked it out that you saved like £100 or summin, not worth it if it turns up faulty and say you need to return it. how did you go about working out the tax(s)? will also vary as to how its labled from the seller too, a 'gift' ect. i had a google but lost intrest with all the bullshit jargon..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunky_bifta Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yeah know the feeling mate, this is how I worked it out: http://www.dutycalculator.com/ like you say, it depends how they label it up, i just assumed the worst and looked into what it might cost. Seems to be alot of red tape around importing things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 nice link, to the point no bullshit!. worst case customs wise its like 150 cheaper than a uk purchase, red tape is down to trying to keep cash in the uk economy rather than sending it abroard..... lame haha its still tempting though.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Yep, untill i see or hear physical proof its genuine im not parting with a penny I am physical proof ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I am physical proof ! out of curiosity which seller? and what did you order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddsy2801 Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) I am physical proof ! Tell me more though, I've read your earlier post, but that pretty much covers what I had learnt from reading the sight Would you recommend it? was there a lot of import tax charges? which seller did you use? Bike as pictured, any damage etc? Overall cost if you dont mind sharing that info? How long did it take to receive the bike? Edited September 24, 2012 by Doddsy2801 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibabauk Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hi there, Thanks for drawing our attention to this thread. We're pleased to see that you are considering using our service and would like to reassure you that at Alibaba, we’re always working hard to tackle unfair practices on our marketplace. We’ve developed a number of policies and procedures to tackle fraud, and systems of authentication and verification, including our Gold Supplier membership scheme. Of course, It’s very important to conduct due diligence before you make an order with a new supplier. Hiring a local inspection is a solution. We understand that it will incur extra costs but this can ensure that you are happy with the quality of the products you received. The other suggestion is to order the sample first before you make bulk purchasing. We recently launched our Product Inspection Service, which means you can find a local inspection agency to check out the products for you before you make the order. You can find the information here: http://bit.ly/AlibabaInspection You can read more about Safe Trading on Alibaba in this section of our website. http://uk.alibaba.com/knowledge-centre/safe-trading.html Aliexpress is part of the Alibaba.com group and specialises in smaller orders. You can find a link to the search results on Aliexpress here: http://bit.ly/nCvvQ4 We take the security of purchases very seriously and have implemented a buyer protection scheme with this in mind. I would invite you to read more about buyer protection by visiting the following web page: http://help.aliexpress.com/escrow_buyer_protection_1.html Kind regards and happy trading, The Alibaba.com UK Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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