clerictgm Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 What difference between inspired: fourplay, element and team forks? All of them are equally strenght? And why people don't use them on pure trials bikes? Because of weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 As far as I am aware, it is just details like the threaded steerer tube and the drilled and smoothed drop outs which adds cost on the team forks but is saved on the element forks. They are all same fork, so strength should be equal. Weight is an issue, which is why you don't see them on many "pure" trials bikes. Especially when other strong forks, like the trialtechs are about 100g lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza pro series guy Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Element forks are slightly heavier as well due to the fact that they are not machined in the same way as the Fourplays, as mentioned above. Edited August 19, 2012 by onza pro series guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerictgm Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) But why on tartys there are only 3 gramms difference? 998 (element) vs 995 (team/fourplay). Strange. Edited August 19, 2012 by clerictgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 But why on tartys there are only 3 gramms difference? 998 (element) vs 995 (team/fourplay). Strange. The weight of the team forks might include the one piece top cap which isn't included on the element forks. So if you included the weight of a star nut, top cap and bolt, the weight difference if a bit bigger. Although I expect most people (me included) buy the teams over the elements for the one piece top cap, so that they can run their hose/cable through it and asthetics rather then weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza pro series guy Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 ^ this and also how much wieght would machining two holes save anyway?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I wouldn't use inspired forks for trials,not because they are heavy,but they are super flexy. When rolling down a steep rock under brakes they move a hell of a lot. If they were stiffer I'd be running them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) I wouldn't use inspired forks for trials,not because they are heavy,but they are super flexy. When rolling down a steep rock under brakes they move a hell of a lot. If they were stiffer I'd be running them lolz.... Edit: In answer to the question - you ride a mod/stock 24" yes? Get some Trialtechs. Inspired forks wouldn't really suit that sort of frame plus they are lighter than Inspired forks and they are just as strong as each other! Neither are 'super flexy' Edited August 20, 2012 by AndrewEH1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I wouldn't use inspired forks for trials,not because they are heavy,but they are super flexy. When rolling down a steep rock under brakes they move a hell of a lot. If they were stiffer I'd be running them No, no they're not. They're not even slightly flex let alone super flexy. There is some minor flex to them no doubt but nothing in comparison to other trials forks. For me Urbans have an unacceptable level of flex and they cannot even be compared to Inspireds so not sure how you've come to your conclusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 No, no they're not. They're not even slightly flex let alone super flexy. There is some minor flex to them no doubt but nothing in comparison to other trials forks. For me Urbans have an unacceptable level of flex and they cannot even be compared to Inspireds so not sure how you've come to your conclusion. how long have you been riding he inspired forks? what level of riding do you ride at? what styyle of riding have you used them at to say they dont flex? they are super flexy. myself, i have been through 2 sets of inspired forks and currebtly on my 3rd, 1st set bent, 2nd set cracked at disc mount,current set are about 6 months old. since i have had multiple set i can confirm that they all flex the same amount. trialtech forks are rather stiff,the tnn forks will be stiff(nearly as stiff as fattys) ive used my inspired forks for street style and park riding,they are amazing for this riding because the flex actually cushions hard landing and big hits. for natural trials they are terrible,they flex all over the place, most noticeable when doing steep decents under heavy braking,makes the stopping harder,also have had them flex outwards when seting up on rocks that fit between the wheels. when hopping on the rear wheel you can see them flex. so as you can see my experience with inspired forks show they are flexy. the reason i still run them? currently there is no fork with a strong enough steertube to crown junction. ive broke many of steel bonded to alloy forks, i have killed a few set of the trialtech forks as well. this is why i cannot wait for the tnn forks to be released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza pro series guy Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 how long have you been riding he inspired forks? what level of riding do you ride at? what styyle of riding have you used them at to say they dont flex? they are super flexy. myself, i have been through 2 sets of inspired forks and currebtly on my 3rd, 1st set bent, 2nd set cracked at disc mount,current set are about 6 months old. since i have had multiple set i can confirm that they all flex the same amount. trialtech forks are rather stiff,the tnn forks will be stiff(nearly as stiff as fattys) ive used my inspired forks for street style and park riding,they are amazing for this riding because the flex actually cushions hard landing and big hits. for natural trials they are terrible,they flex all over the place, most noticeable when doing steep decents under heavy braking,makes the stopping harder,also have had them flex outwards when seting up on rocks that fit between the wheels. when hopping on the rear wheel you can see them flex. so as you can see my experience with inspired forks show they are flexy. the reason i still run them? currently there is no fork with a strong enough steertube to crown junction. ive broke many of steel bonded to alloy forks, i have killed a few set of the trialtech forks as well. this is why i cannot wait for the tnn forks to be released ^ I put it to you that you are high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) how long have you been riding he inspired forks? what level of riding do you ride at? what styyle of riding have you used them at to say they dont flex? they are super flexy. myself, i have been through 2 sets of inspired forks and currebtly on my 3rd, 1st set bent, 2nd set cracked at disc mount,current set are about 6 months old. since i have had multiple set i can confirm that they all flex the same amount. trialtech forks are rather stiff,the tnn forks will be stiff(nearly as stiff as fattys) ive used my inspired forks for street style and park riding,they are amazing for this riding because the flex actually cushions hard landing and big hits. for natural trials they are terrible,they flex all over the place, most noticeable when doing steep decents under heavy braking,makes the stopping harder,also have had them flex outwards when seting up on rocks that fit between the wheels. when hopping on the rear wheel you can see them flex. so as you can see my experience with inspired forks show they are flexy. the reason i still run them? currently there is no fork with a strong enough steertube to crown junction. ive broke many of steel bonded to alloy forks, i have killed a few set of the trialtech forks as well. this is why i cannot wait for the tnn forks to be released You must be one hell of a man then. I've ridden with Inspired forks for well over 18 months but have recently sold the bike they we're attached to. My levels all right and I'm not exactly a feather weight so I dare say put a touch of force through em from time to time. The style I used them for is street and with about 4 months of brakeless riding with lots of ramming them in to objects to turn and go to fakie etc. As I said in all that time there really wasn't a lot of flex. The time I'd notice it is if you pulled a bit of an aggressive front to back there'd be a bit of a wobble when you released the front. Again you say they're super flexy when they're not. I see you've had your fair share of trouble which either leads me to believe that you're either: A. Rad as hell; or B. Harsh as f**k I don't think they're perfect and the most amazing forks ever (i.e. have you tried Skye forks? Now they're stuff!) but compared to a lot of other things I've tried they're much better and strong. Clearly they're not suited to your style of riding so it begs the question why you'd stick with them. You say you run them because they're the only fork with a strong enough steerer to crown junction but how is that relevant if they're "super-flexy", you can bend them and snap the disc mounts all within 6 months? Surely they're shit for nearly everything (for you) so why use them just for the junction. You go on to say you've broke many steel forks and alloy forks and Trialtechs, so I put it to you that I think you are very much doing it wrong. Edited August 20, 2012 by Matthew62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 A. Rad as hell; or B. Harsh as f**k He is heavy and go quite big,but he isn´t harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 He is heavy and go quite big,but he isn´t harsh. That sums me up. I do weigh 112kg,I'm 6 foot 3. I'm rather strong and make my stuff work. I should clarify a little, on my trials bike I've been running tnn protos and on my park bike I run crome forks. So I'm used to a fairly stiff set up. So anything under that that flexes is flexy. I understand your comment about why do I keep using inspired forks even though I've broken them. The disc mount crack if happens, the bent forks where from a sketchy 180 drop for shoulder height with a sketch landing. They are good for street trials and park riding, as I said for natty they are horrible. Coming from my current set up which doesn't flex at all. How do you think I'm doing wrong because I'm braking trialtech forks? The first gen were the best, they lasted me 2 years. Current models ain't so good, I broke the steer tube, cracked the 4 bolt mounts on 3 sets. Clearly a design fault. I still used trial tech forks because they were the strongest on the market. I tried koxx forks(lasted 1 month) I had to tame down my riding to make forks last, till I got my tnn. I ride a lot of natty(I mean a lot) my training ground it where they have one of the biggest 4x4 crawler event in oz. there is a lot of big gaps to hooks, alot of steep decents to gaps,big up to fronts,lots of good taps etc. so every ride I punish my forks,it's just a matter of time. I think the biggest factor is my size and the amount of time I ride(3-4 days a week) Currently injured ATM, hasmd a sweet crash that distroyed my wrist tendons I just wish a company would make components that suit my aggressive style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 No wonder they feel flexy if you're 112kg, for the majority of users I suspect they're waaaaaaay more than stiff enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerictgm Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Emm, my weigh is 71kg, ECHO Urban seemed to me pretty hard. Neon Curved Blade 2010 (i thinked it was Because fork) that I cracked 2 months ago was VERY flexy, lol it can be said that Neon fork has suspension. Worst fork ever I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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