AnthonyNuttall Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I fail to see a connection?... Frame design has come along a lot , most good frames are fine to run without booster now or come with one build in. By "bad accidents " you mean? well the worst one was a 30 foot fall when my mates 33's slipped it was lucky he was wearing his helmet he spent 4 days in hospital with a concushion, had an other mate brake his leg and ribs falling off a post box, and i dislocated my knee cap when dropping off the mat platform in manchester, and there are some miner othrs, but they where all due to HS33's slipping and failing, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 your guna see alot of HS33s fail in trials, cause more or less everyone uses them your guna see them fail eventually. out of interest what is your current set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Iv seen some real bad accidents from HS33's also iv had snapped frames with out a booster and crushed rims with boosters, the only brakes that i have had no slipping and the best stopping power have been disc's You're clearly doing something wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 The other thing that annoys me with rear discs is pad "wobble" inside the caliper. I was always checking the disc rotor bolts to see if they were loose! If you fancy a 26" disc frame, Simtra have some good options. Or order a Marino or Jaff frame with a disc mount on? And when deciding what disc to get, get a Shimano Saint, anything else is pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mysterious leemur Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 well the worst one was a 30 foot fall when my mates 33's slipped it was lucky he was wearing his helmet he spent 4 days in hospital with a concushion, had an other mate brake his leg and ribs falling off a post box, and i dislocated my knee cap when dropping off the mat platform in manchester, and there are some miner othrs, but they where all due to HS33's slipping and failing, I meant what is the connection between boosters and crushed rims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod_biker_barney Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 i'm on my 3rd hope and it's the first time i've been genuinely pleased with one, although the first two were thoroughly second hand =/ never felt a bad BB7 yet though. Don't say that, I'm just swapping my bb7 (works brilliant) for a hope mono! Hoping it works even better! (after reading previous comments it shouldn't be bad as it was previously mentioned that they work well on mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 you will want to get it properly serviced, and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyNuttall Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 your guna see alot of HS33s fail in trials, cause more or less everyone uses them your guna see them fail eventually. out of interest what is your current set up? iv got a stok onza cleaner, rear hs33 and front mech disc, to be honest the 33 is good on this, theres no frame flex, i just cant trust it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 what pads, smooth rim, or a grind? i didn't think it was giving you the power you needed? hs33s are pants without some decent trials specific pads and some care and attention to detail in their set up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 HS33s can perform horribly or incredibly like night and day depending on how you prepare and set them up. Fresh grind, some good brake pads (Heatsink Yellow, Coust, Trialtech are relatively cheap good plastic backed pads), a 4-bolt booster and an air-free hose all in combination can totally transform your brake overnight (or in just 5 minutes!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Neither brake is better than the other at all really. Its been proven that they each can work as well as each other . Ive ridden discs on my mod, and maguras. On a mod, I found my discs much nicer and reliable than a mag, while I found mag on a stock offered the same sort of performance as a disc on a mod. Theres a reason not many stock frames have disc tabs. Its not popular, it generally doesnt work as well, and its hard to produce a tab that wont crack/tear from the added leverage that a 26" wheel inducues. If its not common, frame companies wont go to the expense of producing a disc tab and increasing the manufacturing time/ cost and overall rrp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I found that my hopes had bucket loads of hold where as my hs33 and my mates echo disc brakes had more bite but not as much hold so I suppose it's all down to personal preference in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I found that my hopes had bucket loads of hold where as my hs33 and my mates echo disc brakes had more bite but not as much hold so I suppose it's all down to personal preference in the end. AND the choice of your components, AND how well they are set up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) and your skills.some ride brakeLESS better then most "normal" riders.like flipp. Edited August 7, 2012 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) Ignore. Edited August 7, 2012 by Echo Lite 09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) You better tell that to TRA. Tra's bike feels amazing. Avid code brake with Clarks brakepads, on a old type 200mm shimano rotor. ( XT or something) Holds good, good bite and some modulation.. More than a equal good hs33 atleast. Wouldn't use it on a normal trials bike though, spoke is waay to flexy. Would annoy the shit out of me when sidehopping or doing some precision stuff. Had 200mm bb7 some years ago. Hit the disc one while i bailed on some natty rocks. Did never hit it on street, eventough i sidehop to the right Edited August 9, 2012 by Skorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shansen Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 so ive just bought a rear 160mm bb7 for my onza zoot, am i completely screwed or is there hope? i dont like how the maggie squeeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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