Nannerman Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Hi, I'm just wondering what a reasonable price is for someone to powdercoat a frame and fork. I don't really want to get it powdercoated, just to find out I was overcharged. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 £50 tops I'd say. You get what you pay for though, a super cheap one may be a shit job. There's a lad on here who spent like £200 painting his Limey frame and it's pretty well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 spray paint is the way to go, a decent spray job requires paint stripper, primer, your colour of choice and a lacquer, i got all of this for about £35, it's not better at resisting damage from knocks and scrapes, and if you get a bike powder coated the heating process can f**k up your frame (allegedly) usually costs £50 upwards, it depends if they prepare you frame before they coat it though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nannerman Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 spray paint is the way to go, a decent spray job requires paint stripper, primer, your colour of choice and a lacquer, i got all of this for about £35, it's not better at resisting damage from knocks and scrapes, and if you get a bike powder coated the heating process can f**k up your frame (allegedly) usually costs £50 upwards, it depends if they prepare you frame before they coat it though... This sounds like a good plan. Is there any way to get the paint to stick to anodized finish? How do you think I would get that off? I've had bad luck with spray paint in the past, but I don't think I primered, or did the clear finish. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercofray Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 To get my motorbike frame done it was £50, so around that i'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 i got a mod frame and forks done for £35. was a real good job with a top company too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Don't go powder coating for trials frames. Its doggerz! Made that mistake with one of my old frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 There's nothing wrong with powder coating a trials frame. If its well prepared and done well, the finish can be much tougher than spray and lacquer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Powder coating can come off in trials especially with impact damage which you get in trials a lot. Bad move really. Your best of either sand blasting or as ogre says spraying. Plus how many trials frames come from factory powder coated now? Not really many i suppose? Edited July 19, 2012 by Andeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Im going to make the assumption that powder coating a frame would be more expensive than spraying? If so it would only make sense for companies to spray their frames, instead of increasing the final price by using a more expensive finishing method. Powder coating can come off in trials especially with impact damage which you get in trials a lot. Bad move really. Your best of either sand blasting or as ogre says spraying. Plus how many trials frames come from factory powder coated now? Not really many i suppose? "Can" being the key word. Like I said, if done properly and well, it can be a tough finish. My Ice wasnt powdercoated, and that thing chipped its finish so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 There's nothing wrong with powder coating a trials frame. If its well prepared and done well, the finish can be much tougher than spray and lacquer. +1,it´s expensive,but well worth it,not easy to scratch really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 +1,it´s expensive,but well worth it,not easy to scratch really. But chips like a b*****d! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Not if its done well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Impact damage. Im gonna say no more. Same as when you curb your alloy wheels on a car. Yes it may hold a great finish but durability wise i would not rate it. Besides you cant expect every paint job/finish in the world to be virtually bomb proof. it will soon scuff/scratch/chip etcc... Whether its a bike frame, cars Edited July 19, 2012 by Andeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 The same damage will be done if it's sprayed. You scrape any finish and marks are going to show. Powder coating gives a better finish, and if done properly, will be tougher. You may have not rated the durability of your GU, but every finish is different from different powercoaters. I've a mate who had his frame powdercoated in Hull a while back, and he was a beginner, so lots of hard knocks and scrapes, and it held up incredibly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 But chips like a b*****d! Good quality one doesn´t,but it´s not easy to get the good quality these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 a one off job is cheaper to spray, but if your preparing frames in bulk powdercoating makes alot more sense Im going to make the assumption that powder coating a frame would be more expensive than spraying? it's cheaper to powdercoat in bulk, one offs make more sense for spray paint... (as far as i'm concerned at least) This sounds like a good plan. Is there any way to get the paint to stick to anodized finish? How do you think I would get that off? I've had bad luck with spray paint in the past, but I don't think I primered, or did the clear finish. Thanks! take some sandpaper to key the anodised finsih... the big thing with spraying is to be patient... lots of thin coats, with a good space of time between each layer. i emptied a whole tin of primer on my frame before i started applying the colour then i got excited and over did the colour coats and it beaded a tiny bit... but yeah, take your time, be sure to cover the threaded sections and headtube... i found that ducktape in a tube so the sticky was on the outside was a great way to go for my BB and headtube. also stick a broom/pipe/long tube/etc through your BB and mount the tube on something and you can spin your frame around it on an axis, using the headtube to control the bike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 but it´s not easy to get the good quality these days. Yeah true. Just like everything else in this world. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 This is why silver frames rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Doesn't powercoating require baking under a shit ton of heat to cure? Wouldn't that mess with the heat treatment process involved with ally frames? Probably why you don't see many trials bike frames being powdercoated? That is a complete theory / guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nannerman Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Thanks ogre. Spraying it seems a little better for me, since when I do scratch it, I can go ahead and respray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 theres a few pics of my rig that i sprayed up in here to give you an idea... don't buy cheap paint, i think the stuff i used was £9 a tin which seemed pretty steep to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nannerman Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I've read that engine enamel works pretty good. Has anyone tried it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 no, surely it'll only come in boring colours? what are you thinking colour-wise anyway? surely engine paint is just heat resisitant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I've had a few frames powder coated by a local place who do bike frames for £35, not sure about forks as well. As for prepping I didn't really have to do much as they shotblast the frames first anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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