HippY Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 I've been hovering my mouse over the order button at overclockers. Been meaning to shrink my computer for a while and kinda settling for the corsair carbide 240 and an asus z97 gryphon micro atx motherboard. My current CPU and GPUs are both compatible. Only other thing I need to replace is the CM hyper 212 heatsink which is too big, with a CPU watercooler of some sort. personally I would not go with an AIO. There are very good air cooling option, which are easy to use for a long time, as the only thing that can break is the fan. I would get a custom WC loop though, they are dope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Fan break? I've had computers since 95 and all sorts of fans and never had a fan break on me. Doing a custom waterloop would be too expensive and time consuming when I just want to simply downsize my rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 That's what he's saying... Fans don't break and big air coolers are as efficient as AIO liquid coolers, whereas AIO pumps buzz and break regularly. (I know more people who returned their AIO liquid coolers than people who were happy with the first one they bought). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm gonna order an AIO just to spite you two ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Spite is definitely the most important factor when buying computer parts. It's why I use nothing but Diablotek power supplies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 But the fan could break maaaan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Enjoy that sweet sweet cheap pump sound Sav. BzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm gonna order an AIO just to spite you two ha. ha? good luck. honestly What make and model? But the fan could break maaaan. basically what I wanted to say is that a proper heatsink is just a chunk of metal with a fan, that are usually simple enough so rarely brakes, whereas in an AIO you have pump, tubing, fittings, pump, radiator, and if something brakes, you must change everything, whereas in a custom loop you can change them. you can make a custom loop out of £110 ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Enjoy that sweet sweet cheap pump sound Sav. BzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Lets bet on this. You state how long you think before it will break/start buzzing. I'll put £20 on this. As long as it's a reasonable time you'd expect the AIO to last, obviously if you say something like 10 years then that's not happening. ha? good luck. honestly What make and model? basically what I wanted to say is that a proper heatsink is just a chunk of metal with a fan, that are usually simple enough so rarely brakes, whereas in an AIO you have pump, tubing, fittings, pump, radiator, and if something brakes, you must change everything, whereas in a custom loop you can change them. you can make a custom loop out of £110 ish Corsair H105 or H100i, not sure yet. Yes you can change the part that breaks in a custom but for me an AIO is just less hassle. Don't have time to be fiddling with a custom loop and making sure it works right. With an AIO I'll just unbox it and mount it. If it doesn't work out the box, send it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Nah, because noise is subjective. I know people who like their computer sounding like a turbine, personally I think any noise is noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Silence is golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 exactly At the moment my GPU, a beast HD 7770 is really loud, as it is being used at many games at 1080p+ another monitor with random crap. I should upgrade it shortly for a quiet R9 290, so I can go 3xFHD easily Also I need to change my fans, they are bright LED fans and they are too bright at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm expecting all your builds to be completely fanless, if they're not you're all contradicting yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 I'm expecting all your builds to be completely fanless, if they're not you're all contradicting yourselves. what? I am not a noisefreak (I have a good headphones, although my brother who hears my pc while tries to sleep might say otherwise lol) and I do not like AIOs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) I'm expecting all your builds to be completely fanless, if they're not you're all contradicting yourselves. All four of the fans in my pc are 140mm and all but the cpu run at 600rpm so honestly silent. The cpu fan spins at 700rpm idle ramping up to 1250rpm under load, it's audible then but I bet it's more efficient than an aio. The gtx660 is passive so no issues with noise from the gpu Edited January 18, 2015 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Those disagreeing with an AIO, actually have one yourselves or just going by what other people say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted January 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Those disagreeing with an AIO, actually have one yourselves or just going by what other people say?Trustworthy mates and sheer logic. Big coolers often beat AIO coolers in tests, and they are destined to be louder as they have a pump, and they are destined to break sooner as they have a pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 It's also quite difficult for a heatsink to leak fluid onto your motherboard or get an airlock The only advantage I can see with them is the ability to move the heatsink (radiator) away from the cpu to aid airflow in smaller cases. I would only go custom loop if I was water cooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Here goes... Read if you want to, don't if you don't. Upgraded my rig a fair bit. Had a stock CPU cooler on and it was doing my head in with its small fan spinning at 73.000rpm so I decided I'd watercool it. I was looking through the options about getting a sealed system where you can't expand it or weather it's best to go all out and make it custom. So here's what happened... Boom, old rig. Not very tidy but can't really be with the case. PSU is a semi modular but there's only so much you can do when you have no room for cable management. Pulled it's insides out, still not a pretty case. Unsure as to why they don't spray the insides of the case? I know you're not supposed to see the insides but it would mence it up a bit. Pretty much all I'm left with, bar PSU and SSD. DVDRW no longer needed in todays day and age Got to work on my mobo (Asrock 970 Pro) Does the job but there's no pins for the USB 3.0 on the case. Removed the old CPU cooler and messed about with the EK waterblock. Really good block, comes with plenty of adapters and fits loads of sockets. Bang Got the case ages ago (NZXT H440), I was held back for about 2 weeks waiting for the E22 ultra clear pipe to arrive. So The radiator and fans were already in. Got a XSPC 360 rad with multi ports incase I decide that I want to run the pipes elsewhere. Also bought some monsoon anti bacterial caps to put there instead of standard caps to prolong it's life. Fans are parvum. Think they're pretty new on the market, high static pressure and only 18.2 db, can't complain! EK 2.2 Pump and res, Not the top of the range but it will do for now until I think about running SLI watercooled. Put plenty of foam under this and stuck it with double sided tape as I can't stand vibration. Using the standard NZXT fans that came with, they are a bit loud and uncontrollable at the moment. Ordered a phobya fan controller as I don't want a stupidly large fan controller. Had my first go at acrylic pipe bending, Much easier at work putting copper in the pipe bender than heating it up with a hair-dryer haha. Pretty suited non the less. I was torn between getting flexible pipe and acrylic as it was my first time building a water-cooled system but I gathered if you're going to do something you may as well do it properly. Cheeky, fixed the motherboard in and put the bitspower fittings in. Ended up extending the elbow's with M/F's so I could still get my ram out easily or going overboard and having tubes stuck in the middle of my computer. Second pipe done! Numero 3 Seems like loads of room for cable management compared to my last case. PSU back in, connecting things back up. Exiting! Turns out the case has it's own light where the IO shield is, came in handy actually. Standard NZXT fans are going back in the front. Used the silicon rubbers from the parvum fans here instead of screws, The radiator wouldn't accept the rubbers so I felt obliged to use them somewhere. Now this is the part where I completely forgot to take pictures cause I was too mesmerised by the coolant. I used mayhems UV white coolant. Bought 2 bottles just to be safe, ended up using about 3/4 of a 1L bottle. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. Filled it all up with the GPU out, lucky enough there were no leaks anyway. Popped the GPU in, connected the SSD, and fitted all the LED's. Here she is Had to put the cheeky fisheye on to see properly. Really happy with how it turned out, the UV does look better in person but as does anything. CPU overclocked slightly. It's only a AMD FX 4100 and will probably be changed when it needs to be but it's happy sitting at 35C on idle. Will be seeing what will run at stable later on. Watercooling fittings are EXPENSIVE, but sexy. I couldn't justify buying drain valve, quick releases, flow sensors and temperature sensors for the coolant as they didn't seem worth it. Who cares what temperature your water is, if you CPU is cool and the heat is being dispersed then what's it matter? Will use a syringe to drain system when needed. Lowest point of loop is on the pump/res anyway. Few other things I'll be doing is lowering the fan speeds, SLI'ing my GPU, another SSD, and upgrading my ram as I only have 4GB running at 1333Mhz at the moment. But this will all be when it's needed and I have funds. (When GTA comes out for PC) Also, sound's a bit homo but I'm waiting for a UV pen so I can colour my owl's eyes in haha Total cost for upgrade: UNKNOWN, and I'd rather not work it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Trustworthy mates and sheer logic. Big coolers often beat AIO coolers in tests, and they are destined to be louder as they have a pump, and they are destined to break sooner as they have a pump. Okay sure I'll listen to you because your mates said so. One of your mates AIO broke so they all must be shit. You build me a custom loop that's similar to a Corsair Hydro H105 in terms of size/performance/looks for less than £83.99 currently at overclockers and I'll buy it off you with £50 on top. Also, do custom loops not have a pump? The liquid flow by themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Okay sure I'll listen to you because your mates said so. One of your mates AIO broke so they all must be shit. You build me a custom loop that's similar to a Corsair Hydro H105 in terms of size/performance/looks for less than £83.99 currently at overclockers and I'll buy it off you with £50 on top. Also, do custom loops not have a pump? The liquid flow by themselves? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-081-TL&groupid=962&catid=1532 although it is 120mm rad http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-110-TL&groupid=962&catid=1532 cheap and good AIO my biggest problem with AIOs is that they do not really justify the price in my eye. if something brakes, you must change everything, you cannot customize it as well as a custom loop and does not look that cool, nor performs much better than a good and cheaper air cooler So probably you will pop it up with no problem, it is just not my preferred option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Sorry but first one looks shit, only 120mm size. £90. Second one looks okaaay but no fans, after adding a pair of decent fans it'll be close to price of the Corsair. Edited January 18, 2015 by weirdoku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted January 18, 2015 Report Share Posted January 18, 2015 Second one looks okaaay but no fans, after adding a pair of decent fans it'll be close to price of the Corsair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HippY Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Sorry but first one looks shit, only 120mm size. £90. Second one looks okaaay but no fans, after adding a pair of decent fans it'll be close to price of the Corsair. then again high quality individual parts has a higher price Rads can be changed easily At least you can pic your fans though without paying for other 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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