HippY Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I would go for a laptop as they are portable, and I am sure she would be more happy to bring it wherever she uses it rather than playing sims on 1440p @ 120 FPS.,.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) On other notes: PCB design is the sh*t, I think I found myself in this, and I am good at it! And multimonitor is my new fetish Edited October 23, 2014 by HippY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Spent about 4 hours resetting my cmos and re-overclocking my cpu from scratch last night. I have a stable bclk and ram at 222Mhz, could possibly push it further but I don't think the chip will even make it that far with my air cooling - stock bclk is 133Mhz. I've pulled bclk back to 205 and the multi back up to 22 to give me 4.51Ghz to start with, it's prime95 stable for 30 mins so far with 82°C peak temperature; I know that is pretty hot but I don't actually have a proper airflow path through my rigged up wall mounted case yet. Hoping to get a hinged door knocked up this weekend and get some proper air movement in there. Playing arma3 my fps has increased but up to 50% which is a massive boost and temperatures didn't get above 56°C Picture of the frankenstein pc! Edited October 23, 2014 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartMini Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Surely you get horrible airflow through the cpu cooler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Picture of the frankenstein pc! Holy mother of airlfow, what is that case???? If you use like this with no sidepanel it will be fine but damn, that is one sketchy case What processor do you use that you need to play around with BCLK? And how does RAM reacts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartMini Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 Id rotate the cpu cooler 90 degrees, have an intake fan to the right of the psu, so it draws in from the top, through the cpu, then out the back of the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) My pc is in a 43" walk in cupboard (my "mancave room" got demoted to a "mancave walk in cupboard" with the advent of children) and my old decent sized case took up too much space and you couldn't even sit down in there without kicking the pc sideways. There was a dead area in that corner of the cupboard so I took an old atx case, an anglegrinder, some mdf and made me a wall mounted pc that allows me to actually move in there! Right now I suspect the cpu is just pulling hot air off the gpu and then pushing it through the psu and out the left side, I need to close off the side and design a proper air path through it. I'm thinking of moving the dvd drive up to the top right corner and rigging a 120mm fan blowing cold air inwards with an 80mm fan extracting to the side of the cpu cooler. As it is I suspect that there is a still pocket of warm air in there which is not helping the matter. The cpu is an i3 530 @ 2.93 stock, I wound the bclk up to 222 to see just how far it would stabily go. The ram is 1600mhz running at 1333 (on a 222 bclk @ 6 ram divider) so is pretty underclocked so can achieve faster timings, it completed a full cycle of memtest at this speed without a hitch last night. Now I have proved the bclk and ram are stable up to 222 I can wind it back, bump the multi up to the full 22x and gradually increase the bclk up towards the 222 target until it either becomes unstable or too hot edit@ martimini, I'm not sure if it's possible to rotate the cooler, I haven't actually looked into it! It's socket1156 if that helps at all. Edited October 23, 2014 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 @forteh you should be able to rotate the cooler, but it should be fine , as the air is not that warmer on the back of the GPU that it should count that much. for more cooling potential (on the cheap) get another fan for push pull config on the heatsink and if I would be that serious on OC, I might would go for a custom loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Can't rotate the cooler, tried tonight and it's hitting the gpu Once I have a decent air flow path through the case I think the single fan should be sufficient, I always have that option though edit: I did replace the thermal paste with a layer of some cooler master stuff that I've got, previously there was only the stuff that was supplied with the thermalright heatsink on there. Full load temps in prime95 have dropped by 5°C+ which is handy. Not sure if the paste is much better or if it's just because I've installed the fan the other way so it's not pulling up through the heatsink instead of blowing down onto the gpu. edit2: tweaked the vcore manually as it was set to auto before and the prime95 load is now 72°C Edited October 23, 2014 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) That case is beautiful. Nice overclock though mate! Might have to sort myself out a new "rig" at some point, although I can't justify dropping the money on it that I need to for it to be a serious upgrade over what I have now. If I upgrade, I will require quad channel DDR4, just to say I have it. Edited October 24, 2014 by Muel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) To think I binned my old chieftec dragon for that thing! To be fair the dragon has had 12 years of beer/coffee stains, cat fur, kicking and general abuse - it was getting pretty tired (and weighed about 9kg on its own ) Function over form I say! Now I've inverted the fan it seems to run much cooler (which is logical that the hot air should be pulled up through) so perhaps I won't need further induction. Edited October 24, 2014 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 That case is beautiful. Nice overclock though mate! Might have to sort myself out a new "rig" at some point, although I can't justify dropping the money on it that I need to for it to be a serious upgrade over what I have now. If I upgrade, I will require quad channel DDR4, just to say I have it. so you will get X99 problem but the b!tch aint one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 so you will get X99 problem but the b!tch aint one? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 That case is beautiful. Nice overclock though mate! Might have to sort myself out a new "rig" at some point, although I can't justify dropping the money on it that I need to for it to be a serious upgrade over what I have now. If I upgrade, I will require quad channel DDR4, just to say I have it. the only way you can get quad channel DDR4 is the X99 platform, and I made a joke referenced to Jay-z "99 problems" song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Oh, I see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 My overclock has been prime95 stable for a little over 9 hours 4.51Ghz - 53% increase on default clock speed. 22 x 205Mhz 4:12 ram divider 2x4Gb 1600Mhz @ 615Mhz 9.0-9-9-24 Peak temperature during the 9 hours was 78°C on core2, average temperatures were 65°C and 74°C for cores 1 and 2 respectively. 1.376V core I still have a fair way to go on the bclk and ram (up to 222Mhz and 667Mhz), temperatures are pretty reasonable at the moment so hopefully I might be able to push up towards the 4.884Ghz the 222bclk will achieve Not bad for a cpu that is 4 years old and cost less than 100 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 why are you using only 22 multiplier and high BCLK ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Cpu maximum on the i3 unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Cpu maximum on the i3 unfortunately ohh so it is a locked CPU I see If i were you I would look at G3258 it is basically a half i5 4690K, unlocked, and overclocks at 5 Ghz easily on water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) That's no good unless it's an 1156 chip My upgrade path for the cpu will eventually be an i5 760, not sure if they're locked as well but with the high bclk it doesn't matter edit: besides which the only reason to upgrade would be to move to a quad core, the i3 is already half an i5 and have been known to hit 5 on air. Edited October 26, 2014 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 personally my next upgrade would be a xeon+mITX combo, probably after christmas. You can stuff serious amount of HW into those cases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Can I ask why do you guys overclock? For benchmarking? Squeeze some more out of older components? Just to see how high things go? I only overclocked my last systems CPU, a Q6600 to 3 point somethin ghz to squeeze out a little more to cope with more recent games but apart from that there was no reason for me to overclock anything. I did overclock my current 4670k to 4.6ghz a while ago, it seemed stable when I played Crysis 3 with it for a few hours but that was it. Now it's all back on stock speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I overclocked once, but then I took a 1.6v vcore to the knee and now I have to run increased voltages just to keep stock clocks stable. Max recommended vcore is 1.55v on my CPU (shitty AMD 965BE), so I thought 1.6v would be safe, as I was only going to run for one run at SuperPi 1m at 4.0ghz. It wasn't safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can I ask why do you guys overclock? For benchmarking? Squeeze some more out of older components? Just to see how high things go? I only overclocked my last systems CPU, a Q6600 to 3 point somethin ghz to squeeze out a little more to cope with more recent games but apart from that there was no reason for me to overclock anything. I did overclock my current 4670k to 4.6ghz a while ago, it seemed stable when I played Crysis 3 with it for a few hours but that was it. Now it's all back on stock speeds. I have an FX 8320 so my plan was I overclock it for 8350 levels and little bit higher maybe But as I am using the computer for work, I do not want to risk anything for stability, and I do not need more cPUperformance My next CPU will be an E3-1230 V3 Xeon probably, that is an i7 with no iGPU and locked as CPU overclocking does not yield any performance increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can I ask why do you guys overclock? For benchmarking? Squeeze some more out of older components? Just to see how high things go? I only overclocked my last systems CPU, a Q6600 to 3 point somethin ghz to squeeze out a little more to cope with more recent games but apart from that there was no reason for me to overclock anything. I did overclock my current 4670k to 4.6ghz a while ago, it seemed stable when I played Crysis 3 with it for a few hours but that was it. Now it's all back on stock speeds. I use my machine for very cpu intensive tasks, solidworks, arma3 and dcs sims; generally they aren't particularly effificent at multithreading and use 2 cores at most, however they all benefit hugely from having a very high frequency. Case in point arma3 at default 2.93Ghz in the centre of Pyrgos (a town on the Arma3 Altis map) would give me 17-20fps, at 4.2ghz this is up to 25-30 fps, at 4.5Ghz this is up to 40-45 fps. A 100% fps increase for nothing more than a few hours research and testing is well worth it, the only other way I could achieve these results would be to go buy a faster cpu = new mobo, ram, psu at huge expense and even then I wouldn't have the 4.5Ghz clock speed! With solidworks the majority of the modelling is singlethreaded (by nature of the linear way that 3D parametric modellers function) so the more clock cycles you can throw at calculations the better. For simulation and rendering they are truely multithreaded but that doesn't affect the work I do at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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