ItsMatt Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 My life has changed drastically since that post. money has to now be put into transportation and existing. heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 My life has changed drastically since that post. money has to now be put into transportation and existing. heh. You must pay god to exist or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 You must pay god to exist or what? I got kicked out of my mums because I was late 3 times to college because of bike issues. So I have been moved 10 miles from home to my dads )))))))))))) love life!!1!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I got kicked out of my mums because I was late 3 times to college because of bike issues. So I have been moved 10 miles from home to my dads )))))))))))) love life!!1!! wow. that is sketchy What does bike issue means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 wow. that is sketchy What does bike issue means? the whole drivetrain was worn and anytime a reasonable about of power was put down it just skipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 okay, so you were missing classes thanks to drivetrain error.. Are you still on the course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 okay, so you were missing classes thanks to drivetrain error.. Are you still on the course? like 20 mins late as the problem got worse and worse. still on it they are just unsure if to let me on to the next level btec. work is a load of wank its stupidly easy. I use auto CAD like a wizard and just blitz through everything and don't turn up to lessons that I don't have any work to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Running a render through solidworks last night, 100% cpu and 90% ram used for a solid 20 minutes, cpu temperature didn't get above 59 C Core i3 @ 4.2Ghz, not bad for a 35 quid cooler. Edited March 22, 2014 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 that sounds really good What cooler do you have? What do you think about the new Intel line, guys? I really like that they are ready to make unlocked CPUs, hopefully more than before, as their current line up is rather strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Thermalright true spirit bw140. The fan is running at full speed, I disconnected the pwm because the pulse modulation was affecting my partners hearing (very sensitive ears!) and it's still quieter than the hard disks/ other fans Couldn't tell you anything about the new processors, as long as they can be clocked like a beast I don't really care - going to be speccing a number of solidworks machines in the near future and wanting 4.2+ Ghz with 16Gb ram running on SSDs, I reckon I can get that lot running for 500 quid a box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 why do you have intel not AMD? 8 cores, can run 4,5 GHz easily Well, I just got my computer half done, I do not plan to spend more money on it, especially I found out I do not play that much new games, and I do not programme in Java as much as I should do... I should start doing that again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Because AMD chips are total toss? They're so dreadfully inefficient. 8 cores and 4.5ghz is pointless if actually performs worse than an intel dual core. Btw I am an AMD user... Edited March 22, 2014 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) actually AMD FX 83XX should perform at the same level as an i5, except on programs that require strong single core computing, where it is Intel hands down. I have it and I had no problem with it, it is not that hot with a proper cooler, although it is strange that at 60 degree it gets unstable, whereas Intel is still fine.... but yeah, FX X1XX series was really bad, I have heard about it... Edit: BTW I just read that for Ocolus Rift it is highly recommended to play titles @1080p over 75 FPS.... We will need brutal hardware for that, or lower the settings Edited March 22, 2014 by UKHippY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Solidworks (and just about all 3D parametric modelers) are basically single threaded; they use multi threading when opening documents, rendering and running simulation but the majority of it has to run on a single core. As such a super high clock speed dual core is better than a slower octo core for must of the time unless you are doing lots of the multi threaded work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Really? An 8350 has very similar all round performance to a mid range Lynnfield chip released 3 years before them. Yes they are faster for synthetic multithreaded benchmarks, however, very few programs are really that optimised for them. Solidworks for example has elements that can utilise multiple cores but it's kernel is still single threading. Edit: ha beaten to it Edited March 22, 2014 by ZeroMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 As I see it, this CPU has a very good gaming capabilities for £107, and great overall usage (plus the feeling to see 8 cores in the task manager ) and did well at multiple VMs. But yeah, at a specialized software like solidworks, it has nothing to do. The only reason why I went with FX 8320 over i5 is the £30 price difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_malcolm Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 we got any league of legends players on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) This isn't quite on topic but I think someone who frequents this will know. Excell: I have two sheets. On the first sheet there is a list of random dates over the last 3 years with heights to the cells to the right. Simplest of speadsheets and easy to make a chart. However. on the other sheet there is the exact same thing for another child, however, the dates are random and don't match up with the dates on the previous sheet, but are over the same period of time. How do I make a chart where the x-axis combines the two columns of random dates so that I can plot two lines on one graph? Basically whichever list of dates I pick of the x-axis it works for that series but messes up the other. Edited April 26, 2014 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I suck at excel graphs so don't ask me! On more related note, does anyone have experience of hybrid sata/ssd drives? I'm looking to replace the three sata drives in my box ( 2x160 + 1x300) with a bigger, more modern drive as they're all 6+ years old now. Ideally I would get an ssd + sata but for a fraction of the cost I could get a decent sized hybrid drive. My usage at the moment is mainly solidworks and occasionally a couple of games (arma2, dcs a10c and thief primarily). I know solidworks will gain a massive boost from hdd speed increase but faster loading times for games isn't too be sniffed at. Also possibly considering them for the new works solidworks stations when I spec them later this year although hdd capacity isn't a massive requirement because everything is network based ( 120gig to hold Windows and programmes should be more than sufficient). Any thoughts or experiences of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) I can't find a quick and easy way to display it in a way that you'd want to. But if you plot both data sets on the same graph, right click on one data set -> format data series and plot it on secondary axis. Then you can change the chart layout/add chart element and add a secondary x axis and just change the x axis for the second line if it needs changing. It'll look ugly and won't give you the comparison you're after though. You might have better luck by adding 0 value/same value data points (just meaningless placeholders) at the ends of one of the data sets so both start and finish across the same time scale. Then plot two separate graphs with a clear fill and lay them on top of each other in a word document. Bit fiddly but they'll have the same timescale ratio. Excel graphs really suck dick Edited April 26, 2014 by ManxTrialSpaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartMini Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 forteh, from my understanding, the hybrid uses the ssd chips as a cache for the normal platters, so it just caches recent/most used data,, i.e a performace boost over normal drives, but not the full performance you get from ssd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 forteh, from my understanding, the hybrid uses the ssd chips as a cache for the normal platters, so it just caches recent/most used data,, i.e a performace boost over normal drives, but not the full performance you get from ssd. That's my understanding of them, I think for home use I will grab a hybrid and try it out; for work the most performance I can get the better ( building 4+ gHz machines with 16gb RAM for as little as possible). Given that we won't need much storage space on the local machines how reliably can ssd drives be used as a sole hard disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartMini Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I've been using an ssd for a couple years now, had absolutely no issue to be honest. Recently upgraded to using ssd in stripped raid, the reliability of new ssd technology is on par with platter drives. I store all my important data on a separate drive as a matter of course, but i'd have absolutely no issue with storing it on an ssd. At work I've recently upgraded all the remote worker laptops to ssd drives, had one or two issues, but that's mainly related to encrypting drives/(with mcafee ) windows updates/old laptops, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Ah cool thanks for the info, solidworks uses the local drives to hold working files that are copied from the secure vault on the server. Once finished with they're uploaded back to the server and deleted from the local drive. Essentially we only need enough space for program data, if the technology has matured enough to be reliable enough then I see no reason to put sata drives in as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Ordered the new solidworks machines Spec as follows, should be a nice quick beast to play with - it's nice when it's not your money you're spending 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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