onza pro series guy Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) could i use the echo 24" as a dirt jump bike also? It depends on how much value you put on your testicles, if not your face and maybe your life. If you'd spend that much money giving somebody a profit and giving the government a lump through VAT why would you not pay less to get the same bike if not better (as in better suited to you in spec)?! Seems crazy that you'd throw 2k or something at a bike to pay people working for the shop's wages and fund the government when you could spend less and not waste any money! Also the question you asked is wholey unanswerable I'm afraid, unless K-124 have just launched the 'Super-Pro-Hover-Trials 2' there simply is no best bike as each wheel-size is different, as is each style. Get a cheep second hand bike of the forum, ride it, scratch it, feel bad, ride it, dent it, feel worse, snap it, man up, buy another ride it, damage it again, feel a little bad, man up, keep riding, get better, work out what you like, buy a bike that suits brand new, damage it, feel like crap, and keep the cycle going; otherwise you're not riding trials or not trying hard enough! And that, my friend is the (sometimes unfortunate) reality of it. Edited July 9, 2012 by onza pro series guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 As said above, the only person who can answer your question is yourself. Different parts suit different riders, hence why not all the pros use the same parts. Personally I think dishing out all your money on a bike is a waste. Given that you are a beginner, you wouldnt necessarily benefit hugely from an expensive bike such as a top spec Rockman, Koxx or Ozonys. Something like a Limey 320 or Echo Lite would be a better investment in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 It depends on how much value you put on your testicles, if not your face and maybe your life. If you'd spend that much money giving somebody a profit and giving the government a lump through VAT why would you not pay less to get the same bike if not better (as in better suited to you in spec)?! Seems crazy that you'd throw 2k or something at a bike to pay people working for the shop's wages and fund the government when you could spend less and not waste any money! Also the question you asked is wholey unanswerable I'm afraid, unless K-124 have just launched the 'Super-Pro-Hover-Trials 2' there simply is no best bike as each wheel-size is different, as is each style. Get a cheep second hand bike of the forum, ride it, scratch it, feel bad, ride it, dent it, feel worse, snap it, man up, buy another ride it, damage it again, feel a little bad, man up, keep riding, get better, work out what you like, buy a bike that suits brand new, damage it, feel like crap, and keep the cycle going; otherwise you're not riding trials or not trying hard enough! And that, my friend is the (sometimes unfortunate) reality of it. i was only asking, it will be like next january when i get my money so i should of been through a few bikes and learnt what i like to ride i was just asking as you lot have been riding for a while what you feel is the best bike so i could try and a one cheap and see how i like the ride of a bike then get a expensive bike once i found one i liked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 As said above, the only person who can answer your question is yourself. Different parts suit different riders, hence why not all the pros use the same parts. Personally I think dishing out all your money on a bike is a waste. Given that you are a beginner, you wouldnt necessarily benefit hugely from an expensive bike such as a top spec Rockman, Koxx or Ozonys. Something like a Limey 320 or Echo Lite would be a better investment in my opinion. a limey is over £1000 anyway for the full build on rock 'n' roll bikes if this would help, i ride motorcross and enduro i do downhill mountain biking and i live in southport so i think i would need a streety feeling bike if that helps figure out what bike would feel better and i am not the sort of person that would want to change parts(unless there broken) i ride a bike untill i get used to the feel of the bike thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 An expensive bike wont make you a better rider. It helps.. But its mostly upto you and your skill. I know a couple of people who have waaaay cheaper bikes than me and theyre twice as good as me. Get a nice 2nd hander for £500 ish on the forum. Save a few grand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 An expensive bike wont make you a better rider. It helps.. But its mostly upto you and your skill. I know a couple of people who have waaaay cheaper bikes than me and theyre twice as good as me. Get a nice 2nd hander for £500 ish on the forum. Save a few grand. i know it wont help me learn much faster but its a start i know that if i have a expensive bike i wont push myself untill i know that im ready therefore it will save me ALOT of trips to the hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 i know it wont help me learn much faster but its a start i know that if i have a expensive bike i wont push myself untill i know that im ready therefore it will save me ALOT of trips to the hospital What? How on earth have you come to that conclusion? You clearly want to blow all your money and ignore all advice, have fun with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 i know that if i have a expensive bike i wont push myself untill i know that im ready therefore it will save me ALOT of trips to the hospital I dont understand what you're saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 What? How on earth have you come to that conclusion? You clearly want to blow all your money and ignore all advice, have fun with it. i just want a good bike that i know will do the job rather that spend all my money on clothes and shoes and have nothing to show for it all i am saying is i want to buy a really good bike while i have the chance, even if i buy it and put it away untill i get better on crappy bikes I dont understand what you're saying its just how i think at the end of the day i just asked a question to see what you guys think is the best bike if i have the money why not spoil myself and get a decent bike with it, its my money at the end of the day i just wanted your opinions on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 My opinion (as requested).. Throwing money at clothes, shoes and bikes dont mean sh*t... Just means youll be that bit more dissapointed whenyou fall and ding your frame. Or rip your tights. And having a nice frame that makes you not want to push yourself is the stupidest idea ive ever heard. You want a shit frame you dont mid dinging so you will push yourself.. But then again if you want to spoil yourself.. Buy a koxx sky 2, and i look forward to your first video of you learning how to pedal kick and dropping off kerbs. SHA-TING! Rant over.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I wasn't having a go at you, I just didn't understand what it was you were trying to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 P.s in response to the hospital quote .. If your scared of getting hurt.. This sport isnt for you. Take up painting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 im just gunna see when i get my money whats on here and on the market im gunna get a type of 24" and a motorbike (crf150 or something) thanks for the help and carlperkins ill get my tights from primark so i dont have to worry about ripping them P.s in response to the hospital quote .. If your scared of getting hurt.. This sport isnt for you. Take up painting. im scarred of getting hurt at a extent falling of a push bike im not getting run over by a bus i am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Weyhey good lad. Get a decent 2nd hander. And you can get your pantyhose from matalan. More Expensive but feel better on the skin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 This guy either licks windows for mega fun or is propa naive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 This guy either licks windows for mega fun or is propa naive. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza pro series guy Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 1. I wasn't trying to have a go at you, I'm sorry if thats how it came across but the question perplexed me and subsequently I got my gander on. 2. £1000 for a Limey 320! Foook that! you can pick them up used on here for half of that with awesome specs. 3. I'm glad to hear that you are going to ride other bikes, but please don't buy a bike untill you know what you like. I know how pissed I'd be if I'd have blown all my money on a say a Monty Kamel XVI or whatever it was called to find out I'd have prefered an Inspired all along, so my advice is to find out what you do and don't like on those other bikes and come back when you have a clearer idea of what you want. 4. YES! from what you've said a 24" street trials bike is the way for you, but don't rush into buying the 'best' or most expensive bike, the geometry on the Skye seems to be a bit like Marmite. 5. If you're gonna go to the hospital, you're gonna go to the hospital. It doesn't matter what you're riding! If you're worried you'll fall off on a second hand bike because it will be broken/ not set up right don't be! Us guys on here like our equippment to work and not destroy our faces just as much as the next man, and as the community is so small everyone knows each other, so you can trust what people say a little more than you could elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 dann2707 the reason i changed my mind so quickly is i was just watching some videos on youtube of radfest and even people that have been riding for years fell off and carlperkins comments about i need a shit frame to push myself so i would rather put most of my money into motorcross which i know i am good at how does that make me naive? thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza pro series guy Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Oh and dude.... If you're riding street; SKIP THE TIGHTS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 1. I wasn't trying to have a go at you, I'm sorry if thats how it came across but the question perplexed me and subsequently I got my gander on. 2. £1000 for a Limey 320! Foook that! you can pick them up used on here for half of that with awesome specs. 3. I'm glad to hear that you are going to ride other bikes, but please don't buy a bike untill you know what you like. I know how pissed I'd be if I'd have blown all my money on a say a Monty Kamel XVI or whatever it was called to find out I'd have prefered an Inspired all along, so my advice is to find out what you do and don't like on those other bikes and come back when you have a clearer idea of what you want. 4. YES! from what you've said a 24" street trials bike is the way for you, but don't rush into buying the 'best' or most expensive bike, the geometry on the Skye seems to be a bit like Marmite. 5. If you're gonna go to the hospital, you're gonna go to the hospital. It doesn't matter what you're riding! If you're worried you'll fall off on a second hand bike because it will be broken/ not set up right don't be! Us guys on here like our equippment to work and not destroy our faces just as much as the next man, and as the community is so small everyone knows each other, so you can trust what people say a little more than you could elsewhere. thanks mate Oh and dude.... If you're riding street; SKIP THE TIGHTS!!! okay ill get leggins instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 It was an error on my part, I typed out my message, went to make a Nescafé coffee with half a sugar, came back and pressed send not realising you changed your cheeky lil mind. LY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 It was an error on my part, I typed out my message, went to make a Nescafé coffee with half a sugar, came back and pressed send not realising you changed your cheeky lil mind. LY. hahahaha why did i need to know you went to make a nescafe coffee withhalf a sugar? strange man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 So you know what I like when we're married and living together. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrobinson Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 So you know what I like when we're married and living together. WTF!! lol thanks for your help though appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza pro series guy Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 So you know what I like when we're married and living together. you harlet! I thought you said I was the only one?! I thought what we had was special but you're just like all the others! I'm glad I only ever made you Kenco! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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