Azarathal Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) So with Radfest coming up soon I'd like to treat myself to some new bits for the bike, mainly tyres. Currently running the original Kinetics which I think are between 900-1100g. I'm wondering what tyres you guys are running and to what success? I've heard mixed reviews about Swalbe tyres such as the big betty. What about a small block 8 2.1" for the front? Anyone tried it? Full spec of the bike just to see where else I could save weight: Echo Trial 24" Frame Trialtech forks Echo TR cranks with TR Platform pedals and a trialtech 18T Screw on sprocket with Echo TR Bash Try-all 3d mod step (sloped cap + 2bolt clamp) Try-all Rage bars, either think they're 08 Front hope mono trial 200mm (no adaptors) Rear 04 maggy, kevlar hose, braided crossover, coust pads in plastic backings an a trialtech 2bolt booster Front Echo urban 24" rim on a Echo TR Hub, Kinectics 24x2.35 tyre, standard tube Rear Echo TR 24" rim on a Chris King Classic (Hd axle + steel freehub body), Hope allu spacers and Trialtech widebase 14t cog. Kinectics 2.35 tyre standard tube. I'm really happy with the spec so I'd like to keep the weight saving on the tyres only but if anyone has any ideas as to what else I could modify / replace I'd appreciate it! Thanks. Edited June 17, 2012 by Azarathal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) Sorry to butt in, but how do you find your 24" compared to mod/ stock? I know its off topic, but seeing as you have one and it saves me making a new thread for such a small question I thought I'd ask :$ Edited June 17, 2012 by Echo Lite 09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mysterious leemur Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Sorry to butt in, but how do you find your 24" compared to mod/ stock? I know its off topic, but seeing as you have one and it saves me making a new thread for such a small question I thought I'd ask :$ Not me you asked but I'll give my 2cents.... I like mine , I have an Echo trial and it's nice , amazing frame . In general they are fun to ride (24s) very easy for rolling moves like pedal ups , hooks , up to fronts ect but until you have the sidehop technique perfected on it are a nightmare to try. I've just rebuild my mod again due to lots of problems with wheels so I'll be able to see how they compare properly. Awesome to ride but maybe not quite as good as a well set up mod but then my 24 isn't set up how I would like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Im not bad with sidehops anyways, but sounds ideal! Cheers I'll let the thread continue on topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 carbon forks, carbon bars, front hs33/echo. will save you a shed load, and it also means you can get a non disc hub, moving to front freewheel will also decrease the weight and centralise the weight that is there. and with a king rear wheel selling that should give you enough to sort out drive train. lighter rims/ single wall and widen holes, as for tyres on my streety 24 i decided i wanted grip on the front so i went for a moto digger, relatively light std, i then cut out the centre strip of tread out as i saw it on anothers bike. i did it to save weight but it weirdly increased the grip too. and anything else to save weight will require modifications or ti bolts all round. cheers, ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 echo urban forks front kenda small block 8 rear shwalbe big betty light weight front tube welter weight rear tube front magura carbon bars = win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted June 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Staying front disc and rear king. Just how I like things. Is the big betty actually any good? As I've said I've heard mixed reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 I got mine down to 8.1kg, in the bike pics thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 i used to use a kenda blue groove on the rear (1.3kgs) which was absoloutly insane for grip! then i swapped to a big betty (900g i think) and i dont think it has nowhere near as good grip. but im not that arsed ill still ride it. seems good but its got thin walls so if you run super low pressure it will puncture, and the sidewalls seem to tear. its not bad, but its not great. id say its bang in the middle. but then again im not the greatest of riders so my opinion isnt that important haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I'm running a shwalbe rocket ron on the front 400g, and a tabletop folding on the rear 520g, spot on for street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Front..Kenda Block 8 Rear...Schwalbe Fat Albert.. Not had a flatty yet...and the bike has been riden, almost everyday for a month Lightest things and grip isnt aweful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Jack I saw your post mentioning a puncture shortly into the first ride on those tyres. I was looking at a small block 8 front, like the idea of a fat albert rear. I've seen your riding though Joe and you're incredibly smooth on most things, how do you think it'd hold up for a TGSwhore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Jack I saw your post mentioning a puncture shortly into the first ride on those tyres. I was looking at a small block 8 front, like the idea of a fat albert rear. I've seen your riding though Joe and you're incredibly smooth on most things, how do you think it'd hold up for a TGSwhore? Only reason for that was my rear rim had some sharp bits in. Put a thicker rim tape on and all has been good since 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Maxxis Swamp Thing on the rear. Mine was a monster for grip and was pretty light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I've gone with Joes suggestions. Should be at home by now if I'm lucky. Saved about 900g in total just on tyres, bike should be near the 8.7/8kg mark now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mysterious leemur Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Joe where did you get your tyres from ? I think I'll follow your suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I got mine from crc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mysterious leemur Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I got mine from crc What do they ride like? Really need a change from kinetics , weigh a ton and hardly any grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 My Schwalbe Fat Albert on the rear is pretty damn poor on anything but street. If you're riding rocks it's rubbish, very light and bouncy but really not impressed with the grip at all. They aren't cheap either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mysterious leemur Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Damn , my style is quite reliant on the back wheel so I need a grippy tyre , any suggestions as too a good one that's relatively light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narrowbars Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) I've used the following a Maxxis high roller 60a, Maxxis swamp thing 42a and a Schwalbe Big Betty. Out of these I find the Swamp thing the best by miles. High roller - Heavy and plastic 60a compound wasn't that grippy, good wear rate and nice bounce though. Swamp thing - A little heavy at 960g but worth it imo. Very good grip, reasonable wear rate and good bounce. Currently on my 3rd one and don't see me changed to anything else anytime soon Big betty - Expensive, rolls around on off camber rocks / banks, Grips ok for street but crap for natural imo, ripped 3 nobbles off and weak side walls. Light though, personally I'll take the weight penalty of the Maxxis all day long. Edited June 23, 2012 by narrowbars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Was going to get the fat alberts for rear and rocket rons / kenda small blocks for front, not so sure now after reading craigjames review of the alberts. Edited June 26, 2012 by JMCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Was going to get the fat alberts for rear and rocket rons / kenda small blocks for front, not so sure now after reading craigjames review of the alberts. If you ride natural I wouldn't bother, for street they're awesome, light and very bouncy/springy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 SWAMP THING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Do the Maxxis come in 2.35 / 2.5 or just a giant 2.7 in Super tacky ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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