bikeperson45 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 But on Vimeo you have to wait for the whole video to load if you just want to see an end bit instead of being able to jump around, angers me on long videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddbmxdude Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 I used to try and upload to both Vimeo and Youtube but found the 500mb limit and 1HD vid a week on Vimeo too restricting and couldn't afford to pay for Plus. If I could, I would pay for a Vimeo account. Much better quality, no copyright bullshit and no adverts is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes, but that blocks them for your computer, but doesn't mean that it'll do the same for others. I don't necessarily want my videos to be associated with some random companies who happen to have ads running on Youtube, so I'd rather use a video service that doesn't use them in the first place. Preloading a video on Youtube then clicking to go full screen and having to reload it also sucks every one of the dicks on the planet. Fair point, but if you're not infringing any copyrights that belong to companies which then claim funds from Youtube, then you shouldn't have any ads in your vids if I remember correctly. So essentially what you're saying is "I'm stealing a soundtrack and don't want the record companies to reclaim funds from me using it". It'd be pretty cynical of me to condone that so I'm not, just pointing out that the ads are there for a reason. However, I'm pretty sure YT doesn't use ads in any other circumstances unless the user wants to monetize. As for the re-buffering when going fullscreen, you can change the settings for that not to happen. It annoyed me a lot but happily got round that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Moss Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 youtube is good for searching and if you want to you could click half way through the film, even if it hasnt buffered. vimeo loads a HD movie pretty quick but you couldnt just click half way through the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 That's sort of my point though - it's always "work around" type shit for Youtube. I just find Vimeo to be a much easier, more stream-lined player that means I don't have to download a 3rd party tool to kill ads, or have to change settings to allow me to preload a video then watch it full screen (to put that into context, I usually browse a bunch of different sites in different tabs, preload any videos that interest me, then watch them in full screen once they're done). I was under the impression you still got the little pop-up ad things at the bottom of the screen regardless of whether it had any copyright issues or not? I've never really thought into it too much (apart from "f**king X you b*****d"), but I thought I'd seen them on videos that I wouldn't have thought had any grounds for there being copyright claims. I guess they might have gone down the monetised route possibly, but again it's not something I've really looked into as I just found the lack of f**king around required on Vimeo made it a much better choice for me (not to mention the many other things I'd consider 'better' about Vimeo compared to Youtube). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 How does vimeo pay for it's self if it doesn't have adds? I've personally never used vimeo apart from the odd video. Don't even think I'm signed up to the site. I guess youtube is just where everyone else it, so that's where everyone goes. Ads don't bother me at all, and adds on my videos don't bother me, and I never associate an add with the persons video ever, I think everyone understands they're two separate things. Youtube have recently made being able to monetize your videos much easier and available for almost anyone. So people are like oh my god I CAN MONETIZE MY VIDS NOW I'M GONNA BE RICH so you're going to see a lot more adds on a lot more videos. I've never had any issues with loading videos, in fact my laptop can only just play 720, but can stream 1080 about 50% faster than real time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 How does vimeo pay for it's self if it doesn't have adds? https://vimeo.com/plus and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 You are all wrong about the buffering element of Vimeo. Go try it out now - Pick a random video to watch, scrub through the video to a part which hasn't buffered yet and then click it. See? You don't have to wait for the whole vid to buffer anymore like it used to. I guess youtube is just where everyone else it, so that's where everyone goes. Everyone? Really? I know tons of riders who will only upload to Vimeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 You are all wrong about the buffering element of Vimeo. Go try it out now - Pick a random video to watch, scrub through the video to a part which hasn't buffered yet and then click it. See? You don't have to wait for the whole vid to buffer anymore like it used to. Aaaaah, that explains a lot. I thought that was happening, but I didn't know if it was just my old laptop not displaying where it had loaded to properly when I clicked further into the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gething Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Aaaaah, that explains a lot. I thought that was happening, but I didn't know if it was just my old laptop not displaying where it had loaded to properly when I clicked further into the video Maybe those claiming that this feature didn't work were logged into the old Vimeo? I am pretty certain that the old Vimeo didn't support this kind of buffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 You are all wrong about the buffering element of Vimeo. Go try it out now - Pick a random video to watch, scrub through the video to a part which hasn't buffered yet and then click it. See? You don't have to wait for the whole vid to buffer anymore like it used to. That's a bit better then. But still, there are much less funny cat videos on Vimeo. When this issue is sorted I will used the website more frequently but until then I'll watch my cat videos on Youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 If I'm uploading something to show people on here just do both, they both take ages to process to I just stick em on to upload on both sites when you go to bed and there ready in the morning, stops people saying "I can't see it" and means you (in general) get more veiws. Like sometimes my netbook HATES vimeo and will only run youtube on 360p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Year and a half bumps? That's how I do... Just thought I'd add to this after my recent experience with Youtube and the Inspired in Barca video. Inspired wanted to prioritise their Youtube upload as they've got a larger number of subscribers/followers on there compared to Youtube, as well as a slightly more extensive back catalogue for people to dip into after the Barca vid finished. We got it uploaded and scheduled the launch for mid-day (which was a handy feature that Vimeo could do with...). However, we instantly got issues with third party matches for the songs used with their ContentID system. Now, that's fair enough, and if it was just the actual music companies involved then it wouldn't have been so bad. However, it seems that there are quite a few companies out there falsely claiming rights for music so that they can syphon off all the monetization revenue. The main 'problem' was that this block meant we couldn't alter the syndication for the video so it was only viewable on computers rather than mobile devices, but thanks to Youtube's wording it made it look like we'd decided to cut off mobile access ourselves. I had a look into the problem more, and it turns out that INgrooves, The Orchard Music and IODA - 3 of the 5 parties who claimed for the 3 songs on the video (those numbers don't add up) - are seemingly 3 of the most prolific companies to do this, and it's something which has been going on for a while but recently has stepped up a gear or two. Here's a handy video guide that someone made about their experiences with INgrooves and their copyright system: If you particularly want to find out more, there's a bit of specific info available about INgrooves here, although it's a similar story for all the others too. This is something The Guardian wrote about in 2011, and it's something which reached a peak earlier in January. Seemingly Youtube don't give a f**k about it as many stories from people getting dicked over by having their own songs that they've written/recorded themselves claimed by people like INgrooves, even down to one person's video getting a copyright claim about it because INgrooves were claiming that birdsong in the background of a video was owned by them. This doesn't happen on Vimeo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I had a copyright infringement notice from YouTube on one of my tracks. Not one of my mixes, one of my tracks. A track that I wrote from scratch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yep, plenty of instances of that happening. There was one I read about from a husband and wife who wrote a song for their local church. They went and performed it at said church and uploaded the video of their performance to Youtube. INgrooves then claimed copyright ownership, and Youtube basically sided with INgrooves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I got BT internet instead of AOL and ive went from 0.3 mb download average to like 7mb, Been watching kevin lius videos on Vimeo all day In H f**king D. Sooooo clear and my internet dosent freeze it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Err, OK... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Err, OK... Oh yea i forgot to put it. Vimeos hd seems too be clearer than youtubes 1080... For me anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 It's still a case of Err, OK... The topic changed on the big bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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