CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 So I have had this rear wheel for about 3 years now buckled to sh*t, I have had to adjust the bearings alot in the past month as they are knackerd, just have to tighten it up so they stay in and grease it all just so I can roll around! Yesterday I decided to take the whole thing apart and I only found 3 ball bearings in the cog side of the hub and after taking it all apart I find the rest of them, I'm guessing there is 18 ball bearing in total? And I just want to know, does this look kind of well, broken? I'm guessing thats where all of the bearings were hidden? So is it time to just give up on that rear wheel, before it somehow explodes? Some pictures, sorry for quality, hard to get a good picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 The word you're looking for is 'f**ked' . For whatever the reason the bearings have found their way out so that the axle hasn't been supported centrally in the hub. That distorted, elongated hole should be circular but the axle has been able to move around and eat into the hub. SO yeah, basically it's dead as a very dead thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss-Higgy Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 LOL!!! What on earth did you do to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Looks mangled to cheese! btw you have a macro button on your digital cam for things like this, be able to see it better lol !! Go to a sealed bearing hub and never look back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 I though it was Really quite a rough rider imo... And inclding the time period it has a right to be mangled :') Have a Echo TR wheel, it wont fit in my frame as the frame is 110mm and the hub is 116mm so yeah new frame is needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 new frame is needed! Or someone with a lathe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Have a Echo TR wheel, it wont fit in my frame as the frame is 110mm and the hub is 116mm so yeah new frame is needed! Or you could just get 3mm taken off of the spacer on each side of the hub, http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/workshop/tartybikes_rear_hub_modification_116mm_to_110mm/c34p11718.html Tarty offer the mod when you buy it new, but i'm sure anyone could do it with a lathe. I would go to say you could do it yourself with a hacksaw and a file and some careful measuring, but looking at the state of your old hub i'm thinking someone with the engineering skills is better suited Damn you Dave beating me to it! Edited May 18, 2012 by craigjames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 O, would rather get a new frame to be honest though..I mean an onza blade 09, im sick of it, its half dead, and I dislkie the geo, so yeah new frame it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Also a bit off topic but any one order from trialpads? There is a frame on it for like $100? From the US so I dont know what postage is like o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 If it's a pre-built TR wheel then theoretically it'd be the 116mm spaced one including snail cams? If it is, you can just take the snail cams off and it'll be 110mm spaced. You may need to run the cams on the outside of your frame if the axle overhangs the outside edge of your dropouts, but that's not the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Nope...it has no cams, it doesnt slide all the way up to where I need it (onza's own chain tensioning stuff) And I don't want to file anything down or damage anything just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 All you really need are some M10 washers though, which you can pick up from hardware shops/places like B&Q. Just measure the width of the ones on your hub now, -3mm and get hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 I have some, well millions and there arent any washers on my hub atm though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 ...there should be, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Here you' go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Yeah, I meant the black spacers on your axle Just measure them and take off 3mm to work out what length you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Bit blonde when it comes to things like this, I can take the one on the disc side but not the cogged side, you then want me to file them down by 3 mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 You don't have to file them down, you can just go and buy some more suitably sized ones from somewhere like B&Q or any other sort of hardware shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 I think I understand.. Take the one that I can get off, take it off, and replace with my own spacers, but fewer, will be back in a bit to let you all know, In the mean time, trialspads, yey or ney? Cheers Mark too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 If you've got any pliers or something similar you should be able to get the other one off. There's nothing really holding them on - they're just a tight fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Yeah fitted my washers and it fits fine, but it wont slide back to where I want / need it, I don't know if I should put a bit of force onto it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 By "slide back" do you mean further/deeper into the frame so it's nearer your BB? I'm guessing you've wound off the integrated tensioners in your frame too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 You probably need to file the dropouts with a flat file mate. Had the same problem with my tpro and comp frame with my echo hub not fitting in, being too tight. caused so many problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Yes, just had a little look at it then there wound back, enough for it to slide back, will do it tomorrow too, I think I will do it! Still want a new frame though :') And I just took another quick loot in the shed then, I use to have to kind of tap my old wheel out like the dropouts were cramped not that way -->, but ^ that way, May just have a cheeky little file down to make it fit upto the tensioners, as the frame is pretty much on its last weeks! EDIT - was writing that while going back and froth, what dan said basically yeah ahah, cheers for all the help guys means alot! Edited May 18, 2012 by Callumm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Been filing the dropouts a while now, the file is fine, nothing wrong with it, to be honest just giving up, I don't want to file down to much that it will maker the dropouts too weak and I don't want to cramp the axle in that could result in it not working / fitting in another frame, just getting a new frame instead, call me a spoilt or someone that gives up easily, I don't really care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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