Jolfa Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 You've either got really shit tyres, REALLY intrusive ABS, or you're driving irresponsibly on the road I have ABS active, and it's never an issue. It's all very narrow country roads here and tourists have a real bad habit of driving on the wrong side of the road round corners, I frequently have to perform emergency stops, and ABS just doesn't stop you anywhere near fast enough, it's utter shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I didnt mind abs until I did a huuuuuuge abs skid (or several little multiples of ) on an A road (@ ton+), I had to go into the gravel between a car and the armco because of it, couldn't drop a hair down either side when i finaly stopped! I could have out broke the abs in maybe 2/3 the distance. Its got its merits for harsh unexpected braking in slippery conditions, guess it depends on the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 For the abs to kick in you would have had to have locked the wheels? In which case you probably wouldn't have beaten the abs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) It's all very narrow country roads here and tourists have a real bad habit of driving on the wrong side of the road round corners, I frequently have to perform emergency stops, and ABS just doesn't stop you anywhere near fast enough, it's utter shite!You know where Prawn comes from, right? Sounds like you need to drive a bit slower. Edited May 20, 2014 by Pashley26 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yeah I don't think my ABS has ever come on unless it's hit a wet drain cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So it happened. Coupled with 5 point harnesses with 3" straps. ...whoops! This is turning into less and less of a daily, and more into a pain in the ass, impractical, uncomfortable money pit. Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 For the abs to kick in you would have had to have locked the wheels? In which case you probably wouldn't have beaten the abs ? ABS doesn't slow you down faster, it just allows you to keep control of your steering. It increases stopping distances considerably! And it's just plain old dangerous in snow! In a semi related matter, the traction control in my old Mondeo was laughable, rather than cut/reduce engine power whilst wheel spinning, it forced the accelerator pedal back into your foot with a big fat solenoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 The Judd 10,000 rpm V8 E36... I know it's old etc, but just listen to it!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I know how to get the windows out of a door that wind up and down, but what about the little ones in the rear doors? How easy are they to remove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 They just pop out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Really?? Just push from the inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 The seal kinda peels back, I used a few screwdrivers to gently prise them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I still stand by my opening statement. For ABS to be kicking in, the wheels are already locking. That's the trigger. Either too fast, or shit tyres. To give a little more weight to the argument, I run slicks on track, and can quite literally outbrake just about everything, and the ABS NEVER kicks in in the dry, unless I'm a ham fisted idiot and stamp on the pedal on purpose. My money is on shit tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Today I had to sit through 9 hours of ridiculously dull lectures on British Maritime Doctrine in which I failed to maintain concentration for longer than around 19.6 seconds at a time. As an almost direct result of this, I'm off to pick this up on Saturday: Few niggles but managed to get the price down to reflect that. Boom. Does mean I'll potentially have a spare set of CHs though... Nick, George etc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 My money is on shit tyres. Brand new Avons, option A is closer to the truth I just dont like ABS, I can stop a car faster without it, without locking up where the ABS would normally be shitting f**ks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Oh yeah. I forgot to reply about the carbon stuff earlier. A normal automotive lacquer will work fine, but ideally you want one that provides UV protection. If the surface is nice and smooth you'll want to just key it with something around 1000 grit wet sanding. If it's textured you'll need to key it being careful not to go though the high spots, then build up plenty of thickness of lacquer to sand back to a smooth finish. If it's REALLY pitted/textured/covered in pin-holes, it might be worth chucking on a coat of surf board resin (make sure it matches the type of resin the parts are made with, either epoxy or polyester.) If it's a smooth finish, but just not very high gloss I'd probably just chuck a good few coats of hard-wax on there rather than messing with paint. It should come up to a decent shine and wont stone chip or anything as easily. Luke, that looks nice, I'm a fan of red mk4 chassis cars, it seems to suit them all really well. I was in the mood for some man-in-a-shed mechanics/engineering this evening, so popped to the local engine builders and picked up some gasket paper. Just made up new intake manifold, throttle body and thermostat gaskets for the MX-5, saving my self a few quid as well as allowing me to blank off a few holes that aren't needed anymore. I also decided to adapt the intake manifold to take a VW 1.8t throttle body I'd sized up for it a while ago as I've got a spare. Had to drill a new hole for one of the mounting bolts (3 out of 4 lined up) then attacked the throat of the manifold with a carbide burr to open it out to match the throttle body's larger diameter. I also made a start on carving a thick plate of carbon-fiber I had to blank off a hole in the inlet that used to form part of the idle control system. (Which will be replaced with the VW throttle body's system) I'm pretty pleased with how it's worked out, just need to order some new studs, nuts and bolts to mount it all back on the car. Edited May 20, 2014 by RobinJI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Unless you will swap for LCR rims...or they are insanely cheap/free, I'll have to give them a miss I'm afraid. Nick has 16574985562 sets of wheels...he doesn't need more, don't encourage him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gentlydoesit Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I was in the mood for some man-in-a-shed mechanics/engineering this evening, so popped to the local engine builders and picked up some gasket paper. Just made up new intake manifold, throttle body and thermostat gaskets for the MX-5, saving my self a few quid as well as allowing me to blank off a few holes that aren't needed anymore. I also decided to adapt the intake manifold to take a VW 1.8t throttle body I'd sized up for it a while ago as I've got a spare. Had to drill a new hole for one of the mounting bolts (3 out of 4 lined up) then attacked the throat of the manifold with a carbide burr to open it out to match the throttle body's larger diameter. I also made a start on carving a thick plate of carbon-fiber I had to blank off a hole in the inlet that used to form part of the idle control system. (Which will be replaced with the VW throttle body's system) I'm pretty pleased with how it's worked out, just need to order some new studs, nuts and bolts to mount it all back on the car. Interested to see this, any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Interested to see this, any pics? I'll probably grab some this evening when I finish off the blanking plate, I forgot to take any yesteday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 latest on the boy: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=30013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 ABS doesn't slow you down faster, it just allows you to keep control of your steering. It increases stopping distances considerably! And it's just plain old dangerous in snow! In a semi related matter, the traction control in my old Mondeo was laughable, rather than cut/reduce engine power whilst wheel spinning, it forced the accelerator pedal back into your foot with a big fat solenoid Once you break traction and lock the wheels you are surely typically reducing the friction between the road and tyres? So surely having the abs reduce the pressure and regain traction is going to stop you quite a bit faster? I'll agree it's not going to be as good as being able to be on the edge of skidding constantly. But for it to kick in surely you've gone past that anyway. Or as part of the system is it thinking emergency braking and adding in force? I'm pretty sure that happens in some systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) ABS always kicks in way before you break traction, in my experience. When I get a different car with ABS, I go out for a few drives with ABS on and make sure to hit it a few times (which doesn't mean driving quickly, it means stopping quickly) to learn where it happens. Then I turn it off, and keep it off. I have always been able to stop quicker without it, and as far as I'm concerned that's far safer. Obviously it's not for everyone, just stating my experience. As another point, it's obvious to me that decent ABS systems can stop you quicker, otherwise F1 teams wouldn't have bothered with it when they were allowed. Unfortunately, the cars I've driven haven't had F1 quality ABS. Edited May 21, 2014 by JDâ„¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 ABS always kicks in way before you break traction, in my experience. Hmm, I always thought the ABS system was designed in such a way that it would detect a lockup, in order for it to kick in. Otherwise, how else would it know? Doesn't ABS give marks like this too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartMini Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hmm, I always thought the ABS system was designed in such a way that it would detect a lockup, in order for it to kick in. Otherwise, how else would it know? Doesn't ABS give marks like this too? you can 'skid' because the wheels are going slower/faster than the car, the wheels dont have to lock up to cause marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I see, so the system compares all 4 wheel speeds and if any one of them is travelling slower than the others, reduces brake pressure to that wheel? And then that whole system is constantly repeated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.