Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Your definition of good and mine are two different things. Of cause there are the £1500 bargains out there, but there are also higher priced ones too. Have you looked on Pistonheads recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Your definition of good and mine are two different things. Of cause there are the £1500 bargains out there, but there are also higher priced ones too. Have you looked on Pistonheads recently? Pistonheads is not the way to value a car, nor is looking at the ones currently for sale. You need to know how much the ones that have sold, sold for. £1500 would not be a bargain, £200 would be a bargain. £1500 would still be over the odds for any E36 unless it's an M3! Your valuations are closer to M3 prices, believe me, I used to share a unit with a guy who breaks E36's for a living! Edited July 24, 2012 by Jolfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Shut up Jason, you are talking about something you know very little about and being slanderous. "Jardo prices" are always spot on, one thing I am never wrong on is the price of things. Don't make me out to be a muppet when you have nothing to base it on. Go and find me a single BBS RC042 and factor in the price of a brand new 245/45/17 branded tire for less than £250. I have three RC042's in 8.5J, one needs a new lip so is worth roughly £150. Now go and find me a BBS RC041 7.5J and factor in a 225/45/17 tire for less than £200. I have two RC041's with brand new tires. These wheels are worth a modest fortune. They aren't the standard "style 5" BBS that came on most, they are a very expensive factory order. A set of nonstaggered RC041's with scrap/no tires needing a refurb should sell for £350+ on ebay. You bought those wheels for whatever it was (£275?). Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for them at that moment, especially in an auction environment, and even more so in a public auction environment. If they were worth more than that, they'd have sold for more - supply and demand. You were the demand, the seller was the supply, and the agreed price was the agreed worth of the product between those 2 parties. If they were 'worth' £800 then why would the seller let them go for such a low amount? When you sell them tomorrow for £276 will you say you've made a profit, or will you say you've made a loss of £524 on their worth? Your logic is astounding sometimes. 'I work in the car industry so my opinion counts more than basic knowledge of economics'. I didn't make this shit up, it's happened since more than grunts were exchanged between cavemen for tools. EDIT: Buy it now £300 Sold for £215 Edited July 24, 2012 by JD™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Rich, I think you are wrong and out of touch with the retail market. Simples. I didn't buy the wheels at auction numb nuts, I saw a car for breaking on ebay and went round the blokes house within two hours of the listing going up. His missus had written the car off and wasn't going through insurance. I offered £250, he said 3 and we met in the middle. Have you never bought something cheap off somebody because they don't know what it's worth? Edited July 24, 2012 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Give it up Jardo, you're dead wrong all your valuations are a million miles off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Rich, I think you are wrong and out of touch with the retail market. Simples. I didn't buy the wheels at auction numb nuts, I saw a car for breaking on ebay and went round the blokes house within two hours of the listing going up. His missus had written the car off and wasn't going through insurance. I offered £250, he said 3 and we met in the middle. Have you never bought something cheap off somebody because they don't know what it's worth? EDIT: Buy it now £300 Sold for £215 They are NOT worth £800. The market says so, and that's without me trying to find a 'bargain'. Yea, they will be worth a lot more when you've cleaned them up. If you value your time even as lowly as mine then you'll value yourself at £25 an hour, meaning you've already spent £100 on one rim. x4 and you're already at an expenditure of £675 for those wheels, and you've not even done the centres. And yes, you can value your time that way, it's called opportunity cost. Haven't cracked this one out in a while: Back in your box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Jason, the buy it now is £350 not £300 and then you have to collect them and then you have to refurb them and then you have to put tires on them. And that is for 4 and I have 5, 4 of which are totally immaculate. I am so right, how don't you guys see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Jason, the buy it now is £350 not £300 and then you have to collect them and then you have to refurb them and then you have to put tires on them. And that is for 4 and I have 5, 4 of which are totally immaculate. I am so right, how don't you guys see it. Despite bags of proof, knowledge on the specific subject and a ton of experience in entrepreneurialism? The fact that yours came with tyres and you bartered for them, and paid a propotionate amount more for them makes you right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Trying to talk sense to you is as painful as smashing a wall down with my cock while it's wrapped in a t-shirt full of glass, then rebuilding the wall to knock it down with whatever is still poking out of a gravel coated dildo in my arse I give up. EDIT: In before "yea but you'd probably enjoy that" Edited July 24, 2012 by JD™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Wow, an argument. edit: out of interest I checked the prices this end, average is 300 quid, these are 500. Some come with tyres, some don't. Doesn't really change the price. Edited July 24, 2012 by Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Jardo, why don't you put the wheels up for sale for £800? Made yourself a tidy profit, then a point will be made to either side of the arguement (although I think its fairly clear which side is right ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 You guys are amazing. You yourself just posted a link to 4 wheels which need a refurb without tires for £350. My wheels do not need a refurb, they are mint. And there is one more of the wheels which are more expensive. They have 5 brand spanking new branded tires on them. I just told you what they sell for on their own, and you can't say otherwise. Go find me the same wheels in mint condition with brand new tires, or price them up on their own and then tell me I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 What you say may be true, but you are missing something fairly fundemental; what something costs, and what something is worth are two very different things. My Leon cost me £4.5k, I've now spent nearly £2k on it, however, that doesn't mean its worth £6.5k! People will pay what similar examples are "worth", regardless of the price you have in your head. At the end of the day, its a buyer's market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Inur they aren't the same wheels. They are BMW 5 series wheels, see how the spokes are closmfer at the join and mine have straight spokes? You guys are wrong, and none of you actually know enough about them to comment. Nor do I to be fair but I know you couldn't buy the same wheels in the same condition for less than £500 if you were lucky and that having an RC042 spare all with brand new tires easily adds another £300 onto that. No George I totally get that, but the flip side of that is that in the same context these guys could be just as wrong. Edited July 24, 2012 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Meh, in my mind if something is worth a certain value, it sells for that but there are exceptions. Last year I bought a set of 19" wheels for the big car, paid 300 quid. They are worth 700 and I know that because I briefly wanted to get rid of them and that's what I was offered. This year I bought a set of original Motorsports for 140 quid or so. Sold them for almost 400 2 weeks later. With the first set, the seller was in a huge hurry. With the 2nd set, the seller didn't know what he was selling and I was the first to make him an offer before he had even put them up on ebay. So my point is that you can be lucky and buy something really cheap that's worth more, but it's very difficult when the item is being auctioned and a lot of people have seen the auction or are already bidding. Either way I think you got a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I dont think anybody is disputing getting 5 decent wheels with good tyres for less than £300 is a good deal. I'd jump at it if it was me! I think the easiest way to prove a point would be to show a few sets selling for £800... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) And that draws a line under it nicely, I agree 100%. Edited July 24, 2012 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Better get yourself on eBay then j-rod! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 And that draws a line under it nicely, I agree 100%. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not £800 worth of wheels but still nice. I sold my fully refurbed (by me) RC041s with near new tyres for £120 a couple of months ago, just because they were taking up space. Got my M3 wheels on with brand new Falken 452's though (cost me £100 for wheels and tyres) so all is good. nowhere near £800. if you can find a set of rc041s with tyres for that price Jardo id probably think it was you selling them. Shut up Jason, you are talking about something you know very little about and being slanderous. "Jardo prices" are always spot on, one thing I am never wrong on is the price of things. Don't make me out to be a muppet(doing a good job of that yourself here) when you have nothing to base it on. These wheels are worth a modest fortune. They aren't the standard "style 5" BBS that came on most, they are a very expensive factory order. A set of nonstaggered RC041's with scrap/no tires needing a refurb should sell for £350+ on ebay. lol at the 'standard style 5' comment. rc041s came on some e36 with a reallllly shit ofset of et41. I'm pretty sure you are confusing your numbers here. The wheels you are confused with are rc090, they are worth £800 in poor condition, i've seen some go for £1500 refurbed with tyres. they were the staggered usually 8j/9j and came on e31,e32,e34,e38(18inch only) and e39. im not going to comment similar to you in a 'come at me bro' fashion. but if you are going to do that in future, do your research and think before you type. on another note my car is taking a step backwards, i have decided that the interior will need more work, and the boot requires some sort of build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 *sniggers* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 But... but how can Jardo be wrong? It's just not possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Well go and find me a set then Bucky? I am all up for being wrong and learning stuff but so far nobody has actually shown me anything otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Well go and find me a set then Bucky? I am all up for being wrong and learning stuff but so far nobody has actually shown me anything otherwise. f**k me straight on the defensive. fanny. (dam you autocorrect, well all know i put a word that sounds like kunt) and your post dosnt make sense. find you a set of what? rc090s or rc041/042? bimmerforums trampdrift stanceworks ebay e36coupe pistonheads driftworks wheelwhores look on them, im not finding you a set of wheels go find your own, cos the ones you have bought suck. Edited July 24, 2012 by Bucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I think the main thing here, that we all seem to be forgetting, is that nobody really gives a flying Fu<k! they're nice wheels, they will look great on your car. Were you happy with the price? Good. Would you be happy with them if you'd paid £800? I highly doubt it! Now stop wasting my fuxking band width with this drivel, and get back to refurbing these wheels that 'don't need a refurb', and get them on the car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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