JD™ Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 My traction control and ABS haven't worked for a few months. Not having it doesn't half make you a better driver! Yesterday, for example, was great fun sitting on the edge of no traction all the way home through the lanes. Wouldn't catch me in a car park drifting though, not really my thing. To each their own! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Truth. Electronic gadgets suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Narr. I would never give up ABS or traction and stability control on my daily driver. They have helped me countless times on ice or snow. Wouldn't give up ABS on the M3 either. You cannot make up for the lack of ABS with skill. You'd need at least 2 brake pedals to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Ah, yes, ice might be the exception - although I find all those systems mostly get too confused in such slippery conditions. What about on track? Surely you must find ABS intrusive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) I'm about to purchase a 2013 ford fiesta this week but the wheels are so small. Can someone tell me what wheels will fit. Edit: I was looking at these ST 17'shttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231053664278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 Edited September 13, 2013 by BradJohnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 First time I've ever slid a car and Thursday at 2am in a empty carpark no curbs or potholes seems like a good as place to test it. I booted it into work today with the ASC off and got sideways. But screw ever driving casually about without asc. I'd rather be sure it's going to behave and not have that constant worry. Going to a drift day in buxton tomorrow as a passenger, will record some video's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) I'm about to purchase a 2013 ford fiesta this week but the wheels are so small. Can someone tell me what wheels will fit. Finance? Anything will fit if it's the right mount, surely they're just standard ford 4x108? TROYstan; really beg to differ with that second to last line - i've just driven the Capri back mostly sideways. When you get used to what the car's gonna do, you really shouldn't need that safety net unless you're paying next to no attention to what's going on when you're driving Edited September 13, 2013 by Skoze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What about on track? Surely you must find ABS intrusive? Use it almost every time I touch the brake pedal (literally). Besides, you cannot brake hard in a corner without locking up the inside wheel/wheels. With ABS you can use tyre grip to it's full potential. I used to compete without ABS and while it wasn't a problem, I did get a lot of flat spots on tyres if I tried to brake in corner entry. Perhaps in a typical race car which lacks any body roll grip is spread more evenly in corners and this isn't a problem? I know many race cars don't use ABS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 It's just because I'm still getting used to the car really. Wet weather and snow/ice it will be on unless I fancy a play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm about to purchase a 2013 ford fiesta this week but the wheels are so small. Can someone tell me what wheels will fit. Edit: I was looking at these ST 17'shttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231053664278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 Yeah they'll fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Interior pimping: What do you guys use to clean seats? (Or do you just pay to have them cleaned?) My seats are filthy, mostly water / other drink stains and I'd like them cleaned up. Happy to do it myself but only if it's worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 All purpose cleaner works really well dude. Cheap as chips and so effective. Don't bother with any expensive over priced crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Brad remember with getting larger diameter wheels you'll have to re-calibrate your speedometer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Not if you put the right tyres on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Use it almost every time I touch the brake pedal (literally). Besides, you cannot brake hard in a corner without locking up the inside wheel/wheels. With ABS you can use tyre grip to it's full potential. I used to compete without ABS and while it wasn't a problem, I did get a lot of flat spots on tyres if I tried to brake in corner entry. Perhaps in a typical race car which lacks any body roll grip is spread more evenly in corners and this isn't a problem? I know many race cars don't use ABS. Sounds like your car is too stiff, more body roll = less weight transfer to the outside wheel (therefore more weight on the inside wheel). I can see what you mean, I haven't experienced ABS properly on track though so probably can't comment... Seems like it would feel very odd just mashing the pedal in every braking zone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 All purpose cleaner works really well dude. Cheap as chips and so effective. Don't bother with any expensive over priced crap I heard a fairly stiff brush and some washing powder in warm water does the trick... Sounds like a good cheap option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 All this talk of drifting, reminds me of when I was going down the dual carriageway, turned off at 60 into a small S bend. I drifted going into the second part of it, scared the f**k out of me when I had to whip the car back the other way and it drifted on the other side. Thank f**k nobody was coming in the other direction. Never again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 All this talk of drifting, reminds me of when I was going down the dual carriageway, turned off at 60 into a small S bend. I drifted going into the second part of it, scared the f**k out of me when I had to whip the car back the other way and it drifted on the other side. Thank f**k nobody was coming in the other direction. Never again. Totally different when it's deliberate and in a RWD car though. I had the same thing as you in my Leon when it was standard height and on biscuit wheels, scary shit. However, if I did it deliberately and planned it, I would have had fun I reckon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Totally different when it's deliberate and in a RWD car though. I had the same thing as you in my Leon when it was standard height and on biscuit wheels, scary shit. However, if I did it deliberately and planned it, I would have had fun I reckon. I'd love to have a small muckabout in a RWD car haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 All this talk of drifting, reminds me of when I was going down the dual carriageway, turned off at 60 into a small S bend. I drifted going into the second part of it, scared the f**k out of me when I had to whip the car back the other way and it drifted on the other side. Thank f**k nobody was coming in the other direction. Never again. That's not really drifting, that's oversteer. Drifting's by definition is intentional and controlled. The arse end stepping out's oversteer. (Sorry to be a pedant, the over use of the term drifting/drift is something that's getting to bug me recently. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Ah top man, so that's what it is. I knew it wasn't quite drifting sure felt like it at the time though. What does understeer feel like then? When you're turning but the car carries on going straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Pretty much. Braced for a turn and your car is like nope, but now. Depending on the speed obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Found that sneaky little split under the hose clamp... if that doesn't solve my running issues then i'm getting properly stumped! £20 new from Porsche, not bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boumsong Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Spotted this in the local co-op today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I heart this ^ What TVR is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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