Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Prawns. When he upgrades to his Forge 6 pot mighty mother f**kers. Hoping to have them when I go home for my Birthday at the end of the month, depends when he fits his new ones really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Why would you edit you vagina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Good quality OE pads are all you need for road use. Notice the DS2500 friction curve only starts at 150 degrees (and that that point it's climbing fairly rapidly) - they are a bit scary when cold from my experience. If you drive hard on track they won't be up to it either, so for me they are one of those 'all rounder' items that's not really much good for anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 If only Ferodo still had their factory shop open, I could make a fortune from you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 You couldn't out of me I would rather buy proper pads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) Rawww raww raww!! - Todays modification will be seen by most as a little bit Max Power, but it means a lot to me. A very good friend of mine gave me a Momo gear knob for my 17th birthday, he bought it for his E30 M3 when it was new. He died last year quite suddenly, so it's nice to have it back on a car. It spent a bit of time on Prawns car as well, I think it was on his when he crashed it at the ring. Edited April 11, 2013 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I think they are more aimed at the enthusiast who likes a good hoon, and the occasional track day, without being too serious. I must admit, as good as they are in their "window", I dont think I'd buy them again. They have to be warmed up to be any good, but if you give it too much, they fade (found that out to my detriment on the last track day I did with them). Added to the fact they are mega expensive for what they are, and the fact they DESTROY discs (as well as wearing them really quickly, they leave deposits on them that render any other pad useless), its a bit of a downhill slope for anybody other than the odd hooner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 But what would you buy? DS3000's? I can't think of much that I would class as "better" for a daily driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Yeah I guess so George - makes sense. They seem popular anyway. For a daily driver, OE spec pads IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Regardless of the sentimental value, it looks shit. ...could possibly be improved by being black, but you've just massively chavved your fairly classy interior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) I don't really care, if it was a foot high cock I'd think twice about it. But it's nice to have it in there. - No for OEM Adam. I could make oem pads useless in 60 seconds. My car has oem pads and discs, and they are just shit. In an emergency stop from 100 I wouldn't feel safe, even when the pads were weeks old. Edited April 11, 2013 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I guess everyone is different. I could make OE pads useless in 60 seconds too, but you would never drive on the roads in that way. I've never had an issue with them, and I bet I could pilot the same car around a track on OE pads faster than you could with DS2500s I just don't see the need for expensive (what are they, £150?) pads on a road car when decent quality standard ones will be more than up to the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 The way you drive, you could make a car with wooden pads lap faster than him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Just to fill you with hope , here's my mates E36 diff: Good luck! Follow up: driving pinion has no teeth left. Having it replaced but will need to look for a special motorsport crown wheel and pinion, especially as with a dogbox the stress on that part is going to be even greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) You would be considerably faster than me on a track; because I can't drive. I think R-bird should save for Brembos personally. But if he wants to stick with 312's then I couldn't recommend any other pads for a road car. Why wouldn't you get the DS's though. I don't understand what is not to like other than price. I'm a stinge most places, but not with brakes. Edited April 11, 2013 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 To get Brembos (and presumably you'd want him to have ds2500's too) your looking at the best part of £600+ (unless you get lucky and get second hand ds2500's in the deal). That's a LOT of money for something that will probably never get utilised to make it worth £600+ You could probably get a set of OE front and rear discs and pads for less than £150, which would be more than adequate for a "normal" road car. A whole set of discs and pads vs. a set of front pads...for your average Joe, its hardly a difficult decision. Obviously this all depends on Rainbird's funds though...he might be willing to spend the extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) I think he just wants to do it right once and get the best possible result he can afford. He's doing more and more to the car, I suspect it will be mapped within the next six months. Edited April 11, 2013 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I paid £70 posted for a set of new discs and pads F+R 2 years ago to replace my genuine stuff. They work incredibly well, even when the brakes are cool which is quite often seeing as they are for a road car. If your brakes are getting that hot driving on the road then your calipers are seized or you are driving like a really irresponsible mong and shouldn't be on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamWood! Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'd rather have the road going carbon Lorraine's over the ds2500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 What Paul and Liam said! The Carbone Lorraines are also poo from cold but at least they allow you to press on while on track (and are about the same price). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamWood! Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I can get the rc5+ pads for £110 for my 98 spec callipers, they don't need as much warming up as the rc6 material which is for hardcore track days/ loonatics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Never! I don't drive irresponsibly, certainly not. But I WOULD NOT and DO NOT feel safe doing an emergency stop on my OEM quality discs and pads. It's as simple as that. I'll be putting DS2500's in the Brembos when I get them off Prawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 You're an idiot then. If we're talking emergency stops, the OEM pads would stop you better than any race pad, in a normal road situation. 100% DS2500's just dont get up to temperature enough with normal road driving to be any better than OEM pads. Probably worse if anything. Its only when you start doing multiple HARD stops, and prolonged slowing down that the OEM pads show their weaknesses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 It would be fun to do the maths to prove OE pads stop you better from 100mph (not that you should be at that speed anyway) from cold given the same pedal force, but I can't be arsed. Haven't tried the RC6s, but RC5 and RC5+ have been good for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'm game for it I'll test my OE pads and discs worn half way against DS2500's. Phil has a set. I'll time it on GPS. Hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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