george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Gotta love chassis fillets. Mmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Good in a Piri Piri sauce, I hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Shame the websites don't clearly state: "Buy these, but prepare for a world of bullshit before you actually find a way to fit the f**kers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 That is implied in the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 That is implied in the price Do the more expensive ones just bolt on, as they should? No drop links, ARB's and other bullshit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Not sure about Leons, but it is that way for the other cars I've worked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 You CAN fit them without needing anything else, its only when you drop it more than 40mm that you have issues (on anything but an LCR, S3, TT, or R32). Even if you bought the most expensive coilovers on the market, it would be exactly the same. By the way Mike and Luke...have you bought new top mounts and bearing to go on when you change the suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 You CAN fit them without needing anything else, its only when you drop it more than 40mm that you have issues (on anything but an LCR, S3, TT, or R32). Even if you bought the most expensive coilovers on the market, it would be exactly the same. By the way Mike and Luke...have you bought new top mounts and bearing to go on when you change the suspension? I was told you can use the standard top mounts... Is that also an inaccuracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 No, its right. Just after a while the top mounts end up compressing (because they are rubber); which can cause knocking, and the bearings wear out over time. Makes sense to replace them while they are off the car. You can pick a set up for around £30 on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) Why all this talk about shorter arb links, just take the bugger out. Get mega lows then (and awful handling) Edited March 28, 2013 by Matthew_Gibson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 You CAN fit them without needing anything else, its only when you drop it more than 40mm that you have issues (on anything but an LCR, S3, TT, or R32). Even if you bought the most expensive coilovers on the market, it would be exactly the same. By the way Mike and Luke...have you bought new top mounts and bearing to go on when you change the suspension? Yep and yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Can anyone link me to half decent suitable mounts? I find in eBay I trawl through total junk and usually end up buying something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 GSF's website suggests that they're under £20 for a pair of LCR bearings/top mounts from there. (Link and link) Any of the A3/Leon guys able to confirm that they are the right ones? (I think the LCR ones are stiffer, so will help the handling a bit.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Standard: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Strut-Top-Mounts-Bearings-PAIR-Front-Left-or-Right-Mounting-Bushes-Bushing-NEW-/360490712953?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGolf%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+IV&hash=item53eeebbf79 Cheaper than I thought! LCR's: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEAT-LEON-CUPRA-R-LCR-FRONT-SUSPENSION-TOP-MOUNT-AND-BEARING-STANDARD-UPRATED-/171009778691?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27d0fa2403 If you ring Sere Motors direct, they will be cheaper than the ebay page. (Dave @ Sere is an AWESOME guy....literally never had such good customer service from anybody. He works at a Seat dealership which has won award after award for customer service). If you're going to go for LCR mounts; make sure they are genuine, most aftermarket ones are just the same rubber as "normal" topmounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Awesome, cheers chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Just be aware the link to the genuine LCR ones I posted is only for one side. In all honesty, in your situation, I would just go with the cheaper ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yeah I noticed that, £35 a side seems quite steep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 They have "top model" tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 The ones GSF sell "Lemforder" are £14 a side and bearing are £9 the pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 All coilovers go straight on mike.None will allow you to drop the car more than 40ish mm without rubbing though. that's a function of a completely different part.As said before, 19mm undershaft ARB and spaced stock drop links is the cheapest solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 And best by far. Removes the issue and improves the design rather than just moving the offending item out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I don't get why they ever put the ARB over the shaft in the first place, mk2/3 Golfs always had it under the shaft, and the wishbone/subframe design's pretty much the same as the mk4, so why screw with the ARB when it worked just fine? Mk1s are even simpler, they don't even have drop links at all, it just bolts straight to the wishbone with a D shaped rubber mount, and that's faultless and surely it HAS to be cheaper to produce with several less parts. Reeks of the designers changing it and making up some BS in the board room to make it look like they're worth their wages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) f**k knows. But it makes me LOL that you, Prawn and myself know better than a design committee on one of the widest used suspension platforms in the world. Something as simple as that is the easiest way to justify the idiots who say 'if the car could be better VAG would have mad it that way' about remaps. Edited March 28, 2013 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 If I can find an R32 23mm arb, I'll have my 19mm one for sale if anybody wants it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 That being the LCR one I could do with to ensure nothing rubs, right? If so you're on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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