Ash-Kennard Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 DAYUUUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Fans shouldn't really matter for performance driving. The speed they pull air through the rad they'll quickly be overtaken by the air you're driving into as soon as you're not in traffic. They're more for traffic jams than thrashing, they're handy to bring temps down after a thrash, but if the cooling systems working properly they shouldn't need to come down much anyway. My scirocco had a knackered fan for a couple of months last year, it had no effect on spirited driving at all, I just had to stick the interior blowers on in traffic. In theory the grill area should provide more than enough air to cool and feed the intake for a 1.8t. As a general rule of thumb the radiator will need an opening about 1/3rd of its area. That's pretty small, leaving loads of room to scoop some air off to the intake. Personally I'd look at taking the intake infront of the rad rather than on the passenger side. Get the air before the hot stuff rather than just further from it. In my news, the sciroccos still barely been touched in months and the 406 is still trundling around happily. So alls boring here. Really, really need to pull my finger out and sort the scirocco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 As entertaining as the 406 was around Curby, I think it'd be nice to see the 'rocco there in August! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Edit: Due to a few duties I couldn't actually work on the car this eve, but the 'cooler should now be a little less obvious behind the grill (In before "paint kills cooling ability"/similar...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 They're more for traffic jams than thrashing, they're handy to bring temps down after a thrash, but if the cooling systems working properly they shouldn't need to come down much anyway. That's exactly where Paul's had issues... It's fine when driving, but not in traffic. Weird, huh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 For that price, I'll take anything up the bumall. Where do I sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Paul: What's it like for space under there and how's cooling at present? 10" fans would cover a larger area allowing you to run slimmer fans or to run them at a slower speed whilst retaining the same level of cooling. Alternatively standard depth fans would give better cooling than at present if it's ever an issue or if you plan on using it in anger. Are you still looking at dropping in a 1.8t at some point? Fans shouldn't really matter for performance driving. The speed they pull air through the rad they'll quickly be overtaken by the air you're driving into as soon as you're not in traffic. They're more for traffic jams than thrashing, they're handy to bring temps down after a thrash, but if the cooling systems working properly they shouldn't need to come down much anyway. My scirocco had a knackered fan for a couple of months last year, it had no effect on spirited driving at all, I just had to stick the interior blowers on in traffic. In theory the grill area should provide more than enough air to cool and feed the intake for a 1.8t. As a general rule of thumb the radiator will need an opening about 1/3rd of its area. That's pretty small, leaving loads of room to scoop some air off to the intake. Personally I'd look at taking the intake infront of the rad rather than on the passenger side. Get the air before the hot stuff rather than just further from it. It has an 11" fan in a shroud, but mounting any other after market fan in the same shroud will be more work than its worth. I'm thinking maybe I should just plump up the cash for a standard fan again but I don't want another knackered one! The standard one was more than good enough when it was working, it was just I figured more room+ better cooling can't be a bad thing. It's just a bit disconcerting when sitting in traffic and it goes into the red, normal driving and hooning the temps are stable so the cooling system seems to be effective. I will 1.8T it in the future, just I have to postpone it as I want to know where I'll be living in the near future before starting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hobbit and I went for a hoon. It was fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I love that picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah, sorry, I wasn't questioning if it was needed, if it's broken it needs fixing, and you may as well upgrade while you're at it! I thought there was a suggestion of better fans being necessary for the 1.8t, but re-skimming over the thread I think I just miss understood. Tic looks happy, this makes me happy. Glad the cars going well Nick, how are the skirts holding up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Tic looks happy, this makes me happy. Glad the cars going well Nick, how are the skirts holding up?All good mate! not made contact with anything yet, and if I'm honest, I'd like them to be 20mm deeper now, but maybe next time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Good stuff, the brackets haven't drooped at all then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 not moved a mm since fitting no Wing is still holding up really well too. I'm still shocked at how solidly it sits: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (In before "paint kills cooling ability"/similar...) https://youtu.be/f1QL9veQaNg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 So reference the above: £15 annual fee and I have full access to an extensive collection of tools and reference materials. £3 to hire a ramp for an evening (5 hours) and a full workshop on the side too (lathes, pillar drills etc) Ideal! Is that the workshop on Devonport/Drake? It is fantastic; I've used it twice to replace my cambelt and radiator. Surprisingly quiet too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 The parts I need to get my car back on the road were due tomorrow, now I've been told they'll be here on Monday! ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Is that the workshop on Devonport/Drake? It is fantastic; I've used it twice to replace my cambelt and radiator. Surprisingly quiet too. HMS Sultan. I've not used the Devonport facilities yet, believe even us civil servants can use them Although I do need a couple of wheel bearings pressing out/in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Yeah this one is at Sultan but Drake has a similar (though busier) setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 The parts I need to get my car back on the road were due tomorrow, now I've been told they'll be here on Monday! ffs I fell your pain.I ordered a lambda sensor last Tuesday ready for an MOT on Monday. Was shown as dispatched on Wednesday by 24h delivery, still not arrived Friday. Had to go buy one at local motorfactors costing £17 more. Finally turned up on Monday with the dispatch date of Friday on the delivery label. Needless to say they got a snotty email and its getting returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 https://youtu.be/f1QL9veQaNgIs that for realz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Is that for realz? That was really interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Love the end joke for the MX-5 drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Before everyone paints their intercoolers black: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Is that for realz? I just watched the video above and Mighty Car Mods are 2 guys, a mechanic and a sound engineer having fun No their test was not 1000% scientific and as mentioned above, there is a 3C degree difference So if your car looks better with black intercooler paint it black, and remove your sunroof, and you will be back at 0% difference and if you want to have a good laugh then https://youtu.be/rp7yVicJMz8 Edited June 9, 2015 by HippY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 After selling my previous cruise control loom which was on the steering wheel, I made a new one and located it with new buttons on a radio control steering column control blanking plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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