SamKidney Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 My Ice was pretty solid. Built in booster though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_ruskin Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I wouldn't be riding if it wasn't for onza, they just make trials affordable, plus the two new stocks are top quality frames! as well as some of the old mods 320 etc. as for the the paint jobs they were simply to keep the cost down for the frames themselves, but i do agree that of they were simply anodized with a onza logo and no graphics they would look a lot higher quality, 'look' being the key word in that as they are great frames! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkuskaUK Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 One more thing, was the T-Rex copied off the COUSTELLIER frame? It looks remarkably the same Do you have a brake booster fitted? That will help with the flex, although Maguras are pretty powerful so all frames will flex when pulled hard enough even with a booster. No, i am looking into buying one though! My Maggies seem to be able to bend it so easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant-MacD Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The newer paint jobs really suck, especially the stocks! If you looked at the pure and the genesis you would think the Echo would cost at least £100 more. Onza Ice, comp and 320 were an excellent job though. Can't deny with that, three of my favorite bikes at the moment. Although the chain stay issue on the limey was a big let down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 i started off on an onza and managed to snap it sidehopping ..so ill never be going back to them again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Frames virtually never "snap" from one move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Because for it to be able to snap, it usually needs to be cracked first which is something that happens over time. Every warranty frame we've ever had that's "just snapped" has shown clear signs around the tubing where the snap happens that it's been cracked for a while first. It's massively unlikely that any frame would be able to just snap without it having some sort of damage first, especially when people drop out the classic "I was just doing a ______". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Because for it to be able to snap, it usually needs to be cracked first which is something that happens over time. Every warranty frame we've ever had that's "just snapped" has shown clear signs around the tubing where the snap happens that it's been cracked for a while first. It's massively unlikely that any frame would be able to just snap without it having some sort of damage first, especially when people drop out the classic "I was just doing a ______". tbf? It litterally did just snap, i used the bash plate a lot to learn stuff, no cracks ..nothing ..the f**ker snapped on me side hopping ..pile of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Ahh, interesting. Is this the case for when a frame snaps around the chainstays, like on the weld itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'd have thought that would have been the case in almost every instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'd have thought that would have been the case in almost every instance. the old ones just suckeddddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 That doesn't really change physics much though. Some designs can be weaker than others, but again, it's very unlikely they'd be able to just 'snap' without a crack being there first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Nothing wrong with onza's.. i had a 2003 t-vee when i first started when they first came out.. great learner bike and then i progressed onto the t-mag and so on. But onza have recently stepped up more in the game to compete with other brands like the limey 4 at a great price and design. I think i would much prefer to push an onza than ride a over priced koxx bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Wouldnt say Koxx were over priced. Considering the quality and quantity produced, they seem fairly priced. Id love a new LImey 4. But I'd stay Mod If I could find a new Ice 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towler Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I just hate the name onza and the logo... good starter bikes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I just hate the name onza and the logo... good starter bikes though. AKA Onzo in some peoples minds around here ..dafuq? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 no cracks ..nothing And you know that for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 And you know that for sure? 99% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I think they struggle to shake off the budget tag which most people associate with poor quality. I bought a genesis frame recently though and I would say the quality was as good as a lot of other big manufacturers. I did paint it before I built it up though as the paint job looked shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I certainly prefer the quality of onza frames compared to all the cheap and nasty looking neon / zhi's / other chinese replicas that are flooding the UK lately! The welds are absolutely so shonky looking on them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalRobbo341 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 But I'd stay Mod If I could find a new Ice 2. What about TrialsAddict? I'm sure they stock them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 I have had had an 02 t-rex for years, taken some serious abuse from various riders and no issue. The customer service I have always found to be great. I did snap my limey 2 which I was quite surprised about, BUT THIS IS TRIALS, stuff breaks, get over it! That is like saying every time I see something form a company which has been damaged I should never buy from that company. I would be left with no one to buy from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 What about TrialsAddict? I'm sure they stock them? They stock one. And I have no pennies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe@Onza Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Thanks to the supporters in this topic. In 7 years I have worked at Onza we have never been everyones cup of tea, But what brand is....... I'd like to think that most people understand that brands like Koxx would not have produced the Yaabaa brand if they didnt have admiration for what we do. How is that brand doing by the way? We have over our 14 year life produced over 15000 trials bikes, Thats alot of new riders to the sport as a high percentage have an Onza to start with. Without these 15000 new riders on the market place there would be no "buyers" for the expensive aftermarket products from other brands thus colapsing these other companys. What state would trials be in if that had happened? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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