stunt man t Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 hi all, so this is just a moan about the Echo SL 2012 20" rim i bought recently i was expecting them to be made brilliantly as they cost a lot more then other rims but once i got it and looked closely at it it looks like a drunken 2 year old has taken the TR rim and used an angle grinder on it... take a look most of the holes are not even straight they have curves in the middle the spoke holes arn't even in the centre and the grinded bits around the edges arn't even neat and it still has 'burs' hanging off it (look at the last drilled hole and you can see a blob of metal) i should of just bought a TR rim and did it myself because thats what it looks like, and for the money i would of expected it to be made a lot better But apparently there all like that so im going to keep it im very disappointed to be honest Rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I presume you bought this new. Spoke holes are never on the centre, they are off-set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I presume you bought this new. Spoke holes are never on the centre, they are off-set. yes mate i mean there close to the edge (left to right) there about 2mm away from the hole Edited April 15, 2012 by stunt man t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 i mean there close to the edge (left to right) there about 2mm away from the hole Oh, I see what you mean now. But yeah, that rim doesn't look great. Where did you buy it? Any possibility of returning it as you aren't satisfied with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Where did you buy it? Any possibility of returning it as you aren't satisfied with it? Tarty bikes i rang them and they said i could return it if i wanted to but im going to keep it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 If your not happy with it why not just return it? You never know you may get a better one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Looks asif a Tr rim that has already been drilled has slipped its way onto the SL's milling machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Tarty bikes i rang them and they said i could return it if i wanted to but im going to keep it Good service as always from the Tarty boys. Just looked at my 2011 Echo SL 26" rims and they are beautifully manufactured so I can only presume they have moved production recently to the Midlands... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 nearly every hole has paint in the centre of the grind where its not bin done properly i could return it, they said i could, but its to much rastle and the next one might not be any better?? Good service as always from the Tarty boys. +1 always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Seems they are all the same... As someone has mentioned it looks like there were originally circular holes in the rim and these have been widened. Edited April 15, 2012 by AndrewEH1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 i could return it, they said i could, but its to much rastle and the next one might not be any better?? but it might be ;D. all you gotta go is pack it back up and take it to the post office. mail man does the rest lol. don't settle for second best mate, I wouldn't put a poor quality £75 rim on my bike. its worth a shot to see if you can get a better one. if not then at least you tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 i bet it was made here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-tmN4vk4oQ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Welcome to trials products, f**k manufacturing them to set tolerances or any quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Looking at horrible rims like these makes me feel proud to be running a non drilled 10 year old onza alex rim in 36 hole ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Yeah thats shite, I wouldnt keep that, its not worth shitting through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 They're not brilliant rims to be honest. They're a right pain in the arse to build up and they have virtually no stability whatsoever. They're just way too wide for the stiffness they offer. The older SL rims were a completely different story, not only were they significantly cheaper but had a unique design and were made to a higher standard - though to be fair no Echo rims will ever come close to the quality of say Inspired rims. I love building up Inspired rims, it's like the easiest job ever. Just tension the spokes evenly and you've got a perfect wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I couldnt believe the price of these when i saw them on Tarty... for a front as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 In your shoes I think I'd be sending it back and asking it to be exchanged for a different make of rim all together. That looks like some seriously shoddy machining, there's no way I'd be happy paying more than about £15 for that. As others have said, it looks like they've started with a normal rim with circular holes in it, then tried to machine slots across it, only to miss the middle and leave some of the original holes exposed. I'd hope it's just a bad batch of them or something . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoox Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Echo really need to get their ass in gear. Their previous edition of the SL rim was very nice and they've made some fine stuff in the past, so obviously they are perfectly capable of making quality parts if they really want to. I have personally experienced similar problems with Echo's products in the past, and I am surprised by the lack of attention to detail, tolerances and quality. A lot of us trials riders are tech-minded and this kind of omissions usually stand out like a sore thumb. A rim like the one the OP bought is more likely to fail than a rim where the nipple holes are equidistant from the edges. In my rear Echo TR rim the weight-saving holes are not in the middle either. Edited September 7, 2012 by Scoox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Send it back and get a trialtech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 That's pretty shit for what you paid. Ring tarty, ask them to look at the other ones they have in stock to see if they have any 'better' ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Topic is from April... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoox Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Topic is from April... Just curious, have you Tarty guys already contacted Echo about this quality issue? As Echo's biggest retailer your voice will surely be heard and you could suggest the need for tighter tolerances, which of course would be good for everyone! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Oh wow I didn't realise. Nice gravedig scoox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoox Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Oh wow I didn't realise. Nice gravedig scoox. LOL You walked straight into the grave and didn't even realise. Thanks for the praise anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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