Greetings Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Amazingly light and super pimp. Loving the detail. I'm wondering is Breath a Zhi Team rip off which is a Koxx Sky rip off? Or did Zhi steal the design from Breath which stole the design from Koxx? Or did they both rip off Koxx? Or did Koxx help Zhi and Breath design these copies? So many questions unanswered Need to go and ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) Yes i do understand that but i would prefer to see a different styled frame as appose to a mirror image one. I hate how other company's copy koxx, if everyone copys then frames will all ride the same because they have a similar geo' I do understand your point about the clothing example and profits etc, but i just dont like the fact that everyone copys, every frame should be different, unlike this one. laurence.. china has a completely different rule book to europeans. and their creativity is apparently limited when it comes to mechanical things, thats what japanese people do better. that why you buy japanese motorbikes like honda instead of the poor chinese replica "hongda". china can copy something (car, motorbike, bike frame) make it for alot cheaper, then sell it for a little cheaper and the profit margin is way bigger. money is the driving force, not design. why make something that may be shit, when you can copy something good... granted chinese replicas are exactly 95% of the time.. SHIT. so chances are that frame snaps. lol. it does look absoloutly b-e-autiful though! Edited March 27, 2012 by Carlperkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amas Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) Do you have a website for the Titanium bits? Cant find anything. They do not have website now,it would be coming soon You can contact me if you have any enquiries Edited March 27, 2012 by Amas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) granted chinese replicas are exactly 95% of the time.. SHIT. so chances are that frame snaps. lol. it does look absoloutly b-e-autiful though! You realise that probably 80% of trials frames are made in China? The ones that are not are usually made by small companies which are really really expensive. Then again the only brand creating "Chinese replicas" seems to be Zhi and the problem with those frames isn't that they're Chinese replicas but the complete lack of thought put into copying of the frame. The result is tyres rubbing against the bb yoke, chain line problems, chain rubbing against chainstay, magura mounts in the wrong place, wrong geometry. And finally poor materials and weld quality resulting in a snap happy but cheap frame. I'm sure that if a company like Echo tried to replicate any popular frame like they did with the Coustellier back in 2004 or the XTP in 2005/6, it wouldn't be shit. Edited March 27, 2012 by Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i like cunning stunts Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 i feel breath frame is very strong Here is about Breath rider video http://www.tribalzine.com/?Zhao-Xuan-a-Chinese-rider-with He is an amazin rider, 3rd video down on that page at the end is one of the harshest falls ive seen in trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 He's a recent video of him on the Breath stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i like cunning stunts Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 You sure thats the same rider his style looks so different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amas Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 He's a recent video of him on the Breath stock. this video is not zhao he is hung wu yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Ace video still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Anyone know geo of breath frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Has anyone noticed he said he's a beginner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Has anyone noticed he said he's a beginner. Right, and your point is? Amas, beautiful bike, I'm still interested in one... I know Esmond hasn't been the best person to speak to about this!! Love the attention to detail, you should see my Zhi (Which guys, it's quite original for a Zhi frame as it's the Z3R), it looks like utter sh*t but it works.... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amas Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Anyone know geo of breath frame? Breath 26" Wheelbase 1080mm BB+50 Head Angle 72 Breath 20" Wheelbase 1000mm BB+80 Head Angle 71.5 " Right, and your point is? Amas, beautiful bike, I'm still interested in one... I know Esmond hasn't been the best person to speak to about this!! Love the attention to detail, you should see my Zhi (Which guys, it's quite original for a Zhi frame as it's the Z3R), it looks like utter sh*t but it works.... Steve what time you come to hong kong again ;( i miss you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Does anywhere sell this frame just so we can get an idea of price etc? Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 i want one, added hyou on facebook to discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 i want one, added hyou on facebook to discuss Not sure if spelling mistake or name... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisTrials2012 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Right, and your point is? Amas, beautiful bike, I'm still interested in one... I know Esmond hasn't been the best person to speak to about this!! Love the attention to detail, you should see my Zhi (Which guys, it's quite original for a Zhi frame as it's the Z3R), it looks like utter sh*t but it works.... Steve Just noticing, looks brilliant, and i wouldn't dream of saying that he shouldn't have it just because he's a beginner, everyone should be able to have a good bike to start on. No need to get hostile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 This bike is sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATRIAL Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Where did you get those titanium magura parts (barbed fittings, shroud nut, ...) ? magura titaniun hardware at http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=magura&catId=0&manual=y also some cheap bike parts ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 You realise that probably 80% of trials frames are made in China? It wouldn't surprise me if majority of frames and parts were all made in the same factory like majority of other stuff out there. Word has it suntour n rockshox forks are done in the same factory. It looks nice am really liking the orange maguras! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George6512 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) I like looks very tidy and all the pimp bolts super light weight! Edited May 6, 2012 by George6512 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Dale Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I dont see the point in copying koxx, for that reason i dont like it. agreed koxx are s**t iv had one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTommyTickles92 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Loving the bike, after seeing all the Tit bolts and fitting in the Magura's, I want some soooo bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigriss Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 is there any website where we can buy the frame or parts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Anyone got a spec of this? I wanna see how he got it to 7.87... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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