clerictgm Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Today I've ridden for 3 hours, pretty intensive. And now I feel terrible, because I tired very much. What's the optimal time for one nonstop training? And how often per week I must ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) You'll have to start off low and work your way up. Just like with the gym. Try and ride a few times a week and just do what your body allows. Eventually you'll be able to ride more often and for longer but you'll have to work up to it. Edited February 26, 2012 by MonsieurMonkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have an issue with riding being called "training" but putting that aside for a moment I don't think there is a specific time that you should ride for, there are too many variables. Just ride for as long as you have fun or as long as your energy allows you. for reference I rode for 6 hours yesterday and only stopped because I ran out of energy, the more you ride the more you'll be able to ride for. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clerictgm Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Just ride for as long as you have fun or as long as your energy allows you. That's it! Thanks. Even how stupid this sounds, but i forget about fun in race for the result. Edited February 26, 2012 by clerictgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Its not training its riding your bike. Ride when you want and for as long as you want. And stop trying to make it sound like a chore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I think its fair to call it training... a lot of us are training to go bigger, get techier stuff nailed or ride for longer surely? I don't see why we're different from any other athletes in that respect. Just because people choose to call it training doesn't make it any less enjoyable for them, or make them ride inside a specific set of rules. Im trying to work up to riding more often, at the moment every 3 days for about 6 hours a time is the most by shoulders can cope with ( do lots of taps and sidehops and have next to no top-half muscle ) so just keep trying to decrease your recovery time slightly, or ride for a longer period before you stop really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Unless you're competing regularly, "training" isn't really the right word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I think its fair to call it training... a lot of us are training to go bigger, get techier stuff nailed or ride for longer surely? I don't see why we're different from any other athletes in that respect. Just because people choose to call it training doesn't make it any less enjoyable for them, or make them ride inside a specific set of rules. Unless you're competing regularly, "training" isn't really the right word. It sounds as though this guy might be competing regularly though, so I'd say it was fair for him (and anyone else who wanted to) to call it training. People who play for a football team or swim competitively go to football and swimming training, and you wouldn't (I'm assuming) call a competitive runner out for calling his practice training, so I see no problem with someone who rides trials competitively calling their trials practice training as well. While people like Ali, who rides for fun, and me, who competes regularly but really just for fun, and rides for fun in between times, obviously don't think of or refer to our riding as training, there's no need for us to ascribe our vision of riding to everyone else. How people refer to their riding is such a tiny detail to get hung up on anyway - it's almost as bad as trials 'purists' saying that street riding "isn't trials". To paraphrase from that (seemingly endless) debate, what does is matter how people ride, or what they call their riding, as long as they're enjoying what they're doing? And just to get things back on track, I'd echo what everyone else has said; the more you ride, the more you'll be able to ride. There are other things that will affect how long you can ride for, obviously, but generally if you ride often and for as long as you can, the amount of time you can keep riding will increase and the time needed to recover after a long (dare I say it?) training session will decrease. I'll be starting to ride my trials bike again very soon after a long time off with a broken ankle, so won't be able to ride for very long at a time to begin with, but the more I get back into it, the more I'll be able to ride. I can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah, wasn't aimed at the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah, wasn't aimed at the OP Fair do's. Was more of a general contribution to 'the debate' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 ride untill tired then call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials-Mikey Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 trials is ment to be fun not training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 to me training is when you do another activity to help with the one you want to pursue. Like if I was a runner I might train by swimming, plyometrics, gym and stuff. I know that it can be classed as training to actually go running, but you don't really need to learn as much with running, you just need to get fitter and stuff. Personally I would see it closer to "practising", I would rather call it that as that's pretty much what you do, you go out and practice gaps or sidehops and stuff, it sounds weird in my head saying "I'm going out to train my gaps". If I was to train for a comp I would go running, go to the gym, stuff like that, then I would go out and practice the actual techniques.........sounds way better in my head like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) , but you don't really need to learn as much with running, you just need to get fitter and stuff oh how I wish that were true! Not to get in the way of your point, because I agree that training for trials sounds odd. But yea, there's a lot of technical bits to learn about the mere task of running to do it well, same as its easy to ride a bike, but tough to ride trials. Edited February 29, 2012 by JDâ„¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 "I'm just off out to practice my running techniques, today I'm going to concentrate on putting one foot in front of the other and see if I can get any better at that" Interesting fact, my dad was a top uk marathon and fell runner back in the day, had one of the quickest marathon times in the uk and junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) "I'm just off out to practice my running techniques, today I'm going to concentrate on putting one foot in front of the other and see if I can get any better at that" Interesting fact, my dad was a top uk marathon and fell runner back in the day, had one of the quickest marathon times in the uk and junk. That's awesome Pacing, stride lengths, efficient strike patterns, they're all moves like gapping and sidehopping. You're old man was probably blessed with not having to learn them like us mere mortals, but I can assure you that they are essential to people like me didn't mean to bring up an argument, it just happens to be something I'm fairly good at through sheer determination and 'training' Edit: obviously not as good as your dad, but I'm not a natural like he must have been! Edited February 29, 2012 by JDâ„¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 another fact, my mum was also a runner.....I put a stop to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'll go tell the dozens of running mags and blogs to shut down then because it's just putting one foot in front of another I'm jesting, at least partly. Ultimately I still agree that training for trials is gay. Practising is where it's at. Having fun is more where it's at. Which is lucky, because if I've been practising for 12 years and am this shit, at least I've had fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 yeah running perhaps wasn't the best thing to chose, but you get the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 yeah running perhaps wasn't the best thing to chose, but you get the idea Yep knew I shouldn't have been so picky, because as I said I knew what you meant! Y'know what I'm like though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 a fanny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Agreed once more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ride when you want to, and ride until you stop enjoying it. That's pretty much how it works for me anyway. I ride bikes because I find it enjoyable and satisfying when I learn something new. If I've been riding and I'm not enjoying it as much, I don't carry on riding. Equally, if I don't particularly want to ride that day I won't ride because I know I won't enjoy it, which generally makes me feel worse about riding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Interesting link on BBC's iplayer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01cywtq/Horizon_20112012_The_Truth_About_Exercise/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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