tryallmaster Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Had a quick hour to film a few clips riding the NEW TNN Blacks pad. The new compound is currently being tested by several riders. First impressions of the Blacks are very positive. Certainly a contender to become the next 'pad'. The pad has not been released yet..It is still under this final stages of testing. I am also riding the prototype forks with disc mount. Front wheel moves have never been easier.. Cheers, Lewis. Edited February 18, 2012 by tryallmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Looking good so far! Are they softer than LGM's? Harger than Beleays? What's the compound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 What sort of qualitys to the pads have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam T Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Solid riding Lewis as per. Compound looks promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 i hate it when people do a video to promote a pad, and dont even "test" it properly, people want to see it holding on a edge, or really loud noise, that could be any pad in my opinion for that video ive ran pads on dead grinds which the brake is not very good at all which is capable of working in all conditions that were shown in that video. i suppose the truth will be in weather it gets released or not.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Seems like a god test, shows it holds well in the wet and on edges.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 They're clearly just magura blacks in TNN backings! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Finally! Don't know why but I like the idea of black pads with superior performance. Perhaps because black pads are usually the exact opposite. Could call them TNN Sleepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryallmaster Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) i hate it when people do a video to promote a pad, and dont even "test" it properly, people want to see it holding on a edge, or really loud noise, that could be any pad in my opinion for that video ive ran pads on dead grinds which the brake is not very good at all which is capable of working in all conditions that were shown in that video. i suppose the truth will be in weather it gets released or not.. I completely agree with you. I mean, how can a pad just be tested on straight edges. LOL I reckon some lads could do all those lines brakeless…. I have not made my definitive opinion on the pads based on the first ride.. How could anyone be stupid enough to write a review after the first ride.. However, my first impressions are very positive. The vid was merely to out them out there.. Luckily, TNN have a very diverse team of talented riders around the world who will chip in their 2 pence. You are also right with your last point. Cheers Edited February 19, 2012 by tryallmaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le @ Tnn Engineering Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 What sort of qualitys to the pads have? Here's what my riders and myself have to say about the blacks. Modulation,Bite and Hold better than the Belaey's and very close to the beastly LGM. Performance consistency is excellent and wear is better than Belaey's. Here's the TNN compounds in a nut shell. -LGM street,big moves,Harsh grind,No modulation,Big locking power,wet. Smooth rim Modulation and holding power. No wet. -Belaey's street and natural,med grind,modulation,locking power,wet,muddy,dusty. Very consistent compound. -Blacks I'd say the blacks are Belaey's on steroids. Will be cheaper too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Sounds good, however how do you have bite and modulation? surly its one or the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 So will Belaeys be discontinued given the better performance of the blacks? I haven't been able to understand the appeal of Belaeys personally (or any other pads on the market for that matter), you had to choose between them and the LGM's which are pretty much the best pads ever. Can't fault them in any riding conditions I've been in - be it natural, street or heavy rain. But it's good to see you're developing new products, really hope the black ones make it into production because they look cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 pads that stick like shit to a pillow =lgms had 6 sets now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 lgm and beleay sound the same to me. beleay are the best imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 POWERhouse! Sound alright... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATRIAL Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 -Blacks I'd say the blacks are Belaey's on steroids. Will be cheaper too. enoght for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Manning Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 After watching the video, the pads look like they work really well. I didn't notice them slip at all and appeared to be pretty responsive with holding. Your riding in the video was pretty advanced so it looks like the pads will suited to all riders. At the end of the video you are riding in a lot of water, the pads still seem to hold well but I wonder if the performance had dropped once being wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 After watching the video, the pads look like they work really well. I didn't notice them slip at all and appeared to be pretty responsive with holding. Your riding in the video was pretty advanced so it looks like the pads will suited to all riders. At the end of the video you are riding in a lot of water, the pads still seem to hold well but I wonder if the performance had dropped once being wet. That vid was good and every thing but it don't show the pads work does it, as some one else said some people could do tht stuff brake less Put a video of him hopping up a steep bank that will give us a better idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I concur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 That vid was good and every thing but it don't show the pads work does it, as some one else said some people could do tht stuff brake less Put a video of him hopping up a steep bank that will give us a better idea That is some of the biggest load of bollocks I've heard here in a long time. The fact that some people can ride some of those obstacles brakeless doesn't take away from the fact he did, in fact, use his brakes. Some of those up to rears were hanging pretty decently off the edge of the obstacle, and the brake held. Put the same person in the same position with no brake and it obviously wouldn't hold. Put the same person in the same position there with standard black pads, and it wouldn't hold. This one did. Whether that makes it an awesome pad isn't for me to say, but to discount it because it could be done by someone else in a different technique entirely is just rubbish. I do, however, agree that a bigger variety of obstacles (including steep banks) should be used in a proper test obviously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 That is some of the biggest load of bollocks I've heard here in a long time. The fact that some people can ride some of those obstacles brakeless doesn't take away from the fact he did, in fact, use his brakes. Some of those up to rears were hanging pretty decently off the edge of the obstacle, and the brake held. Put the same person in the same position with no brake and it obviously wouldn't hold. Put the same person in the same position there with standard black pads, and it wouldn't hold. This one did. Whether that makes it an awesome pad isn't for me to say, but to discount it because it could be done by someone else in a different technique entirely is just rubbish. I do, however, agree that a bigger variety of obstacles (including steep banks) should be used in a proper test obviously. if some one could do it brake less it means that the move would not involve much stress on the brake, i dont know where you saw him hanging off the edge of stuff, he seemed to make it straight on top or one extra hop to get it to the top everytime. a natural video would have come across loads better imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 if some one could do it brake less it means that the move would not involve much stress on the brake, Ok, so because someone like Flipp can do a gap down to front, everyone who uses their brake on that move is doing it wrong? No, of course not. The fact is that most people buying a set of pads will probably be planning to use them, so the comparison is completely flawed. Most of the times the bike landed in that video, if there was no brake at all Lewis would have looped out hard. That doesn't mean that the move couldn't have been done brakeless, but it's no comparison because brakeless requires a technique you simply don't use if you have brakes - I know because I've spent years riding with brakes, and around a year riding without them. i dont know where you saw him hanging off the edge of stuff, he seemed to make it straight on top or one extra hop to get it to the top everytime. You mean... he... did the move properly? Shock f**king horror. I suppose there is my actual problem with this stuff, people expect pads to magically hold them up when they completely f**k up a move, and that's just stupid. Due to that, because I won't be able to have a reasonable debate with anyone who says otherwise: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Ok, so because someone like Flipp can do a gap down to front, everyone who uses their brake on that move is doing it wrong? No, of course not. The fact is that most people buying a set of pads will probably be planning to use them, so the comparison is completely flawed. Most of the times the bike landed in that video, if there was no brake at all Lewis would have looped out hard. That doesn't mean that the move couldn't have been done brakeless, but it's no comparison because brakeless requires a technique you simply don't use if you have brakes - I know because I've spent years riding with brakes, and around a year riding without them. You mean... he... did the move properly? Shock f**king horror. I suppose there is my actual problem with this stuff, people expect pads to magically hold them up when they completely f**k up a move, and that's just stupid. Due to that, because I won't be able to have a reasonable debate with anyone who says otherwise: i didnt see any down to fronts in this video, just straight to backs and gaps mainly. to fronts is a differnet story when you go on about brakeless. never mentioned about anybody doing anything wrong now. and yes he did do the move right didnt say he didnt, but nearly every other pads on the market works if you do the move right, people want a savage super brake, espeically comp riders and big tgs riders!! obviously completely f**king up a move is game over but he rode everything to perfcetion in the video pretty much and in my opinon would not have put much pressure on the brake at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 In fairness, if this is meant to be pad promo, it's doing a terrible job. In terms of being clips of riding while using the pads it's great, but to advertise/prove them to work? Not so much. Way too much stuff to front/not really pushing the pads to their limit for that. Great riding, no doubt about that, but worked more as a promo for the forks than the pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Serious business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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