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but it's low viscosity so it must be better than water which everyone knows is too hard to pull.

I believe Mercury actually has a slightly higher viscosity than water at a room temperature, but it's years since any Science class of mine :P

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I'm no scientist but....

I thought the way mercury rolls about not sticking to anything meant that it had a lower viscosity? Water is like treacle, it sticks to surfaces.

Meh, I was just messing about anyway I have however contacted my brother who has a PHD in chemistry to get an answer and perhaps a suggestion on what fluid anal trials riders could use.

Edit: Dam you JD, you were correct! People should try Acetone, it's a solvent but I'm sure it will be fine :rolleyes:

Edit 2: Acetone is present in urine, so everybody should use piss in their brakes :shifty:

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think this is getting a bit far now lol if its dot il not be trying it i have an old maggy but its better as spares then wracked, aparently the tank fluid is harder then water but moves just as freely so should give the lever a harder more solid feel and be just as fast and easy to pull, but the main thing will be if its dot or not which i didnt think about to start with but im thinkin it will most likly be dot

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You've already been told that a 'harder' (assuming by that you mean less compressive) fluid won't make any difference at our brake pressures:

For the pressures involved in trials both fluids can be considered incompressable

Liquid is pretty compression-less (note pretty, not entirely), water, oil etc is VERY hard to compress, I doubt tank fluid is any "harder" than water

If anything, as already said too, you'd need something THINNER than water, not thicker. Any improvement you feel will be due to you wanting it to feel better.

I should mention I couldn't give a rats arse, I just hate it when people ignore facts they've been presented with..

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i hear whats been said but a harder fluid that moves freely will give the feeling of less flex/sponginess at the lever. i dunno about most riders but the more solid my lever feels the the more i like it. each to there own i was only interested in peoples thoughts and if people have tried other fluids and weather they work.

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iv got a echo 4 bolt booster already, sorry for trying to find a small improvement in a sport we all do

sorry, we're not really having a go at you, it's just most of us have been riding a long time and been through countless "what's the best fluid" posts in our time on here so it's hard not to be a little cynical.

I'm still curious as to what you mean by "harder"? As has been said water and oil are pretty compression-less yet I wouldn't describe them as hard. Finding a stiffer frame/booster setup would make more difference to how stiff the brake feels than the fluid that's in it.

Personally I find a REALLY stiff setup makes my arm pump worse, a little bit of flex can be a good thing.

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sorry, we're not really having a go at you, it's just most of us have been riding a long time and been through countless "what's the best fluid" posts in our time on here so it's hard not to be a little cynical.

I'm still curious as to what you mean by "harder"? As has been said water and oil are pretty compression-less yet I wouldn't describe them as hard. Finding a stiffer frame/booster setup would make more difference to how stiff the brake feels than the fluid that's in it.

Personally I find a REALLY stiff setup makes my arm pump worse, a little bit of flex can be a good thing.

cheers, its awkward to explain as i know what i mean lol, by harder/denser i mean that if u had a can with a air tight plate on the top one with water one with tank fluid the plate on the water cud be pushed down feather then the tank fluid but the tank fluid moves just as fast and freely as water.

think im going to do some syringe tests when i get it but it all boils down to the dot or not factor

iv only tried 2 boosters a gu 4 bolt and my current echo. my set up feels pretty amazing and best iv ever used and a everyone thats tried it agrees but im not saying there not better ones out there.

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by harder/denser i mean that if u had a can with a air tight plate on the top one with water one with tank fluid the plate on the water cud be pushed down feather then the tank fluid but the tank fluid moves just as fast and freely as water.

Right... well that's cleared that up. Except that what you're talking about is compressibility and the majority of fluids which can be used in brakes can be effectively considered as incompressible at standard atmospheric temperature and pressure. Why do you think that tank brake fluid is any different? My guess is that the army just buy DOT fluid in bulk from a supplier with the main difference being that it comes in a khaki 50 litre drum.

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Right... well that's cleared that up. Except that what you're talking about is compressibility and the majority of fluids which can be used in brakes can be effectively considered as incompressible at standard atmospheric temperature and pressure. Why do you think that tank brake fluid is any different? My guess is that the army just buy DOT fluid in bulk from a supplier with the main difference being that it comes in a khaki 50 litre drum.

cheers, for the first part anyway. it was just a thought i had that it would be worth trying just like the first person to run water.

im not sure is its dot or not as iv said already but its vary different to normal fluid as it moves as fast and freely as water as iv already said.

i think in future i will just try thing for my self as the topic has proved to be hard work but thanks to those have help

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