Laurence--Trials Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Ive never been able to put the refills into Cnc backings and I'm not too sure about them either after my first expirence with them I found the pad just came out of its backing and I could not get it back in, brought some refills and couldn't get them in either. What I want to know is : Is it common for them to come out of their backings? And can I have tips, guide throughs, good videos, what ever for putting refills in. It's between the yellow refills or yellow plastic backs atm Also, do you think CNC backings are over rated? And I am right in saying there good on a s Mooth rom? Edited February 15, 2012 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I think it´s very easy thing to do,you just have to get rid of the rest of the glue in the backings(it they aren´t new of course)and if you have correct refills,they should fit without any problems.The trick you might be looking for is that you insert one end of the refill first(not all the way in though)and than you push the other end in.If you can´t push them all the way in like this,just put them in the vice,job done.With proper backings/refills you don´t even need to use a glue(I myself don´t use any),but if you´re worried,any superglue will be good,just don´t use too much of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I personally dont use glue with my yellows in their Cnc backings. Tight enough fit 'dry'. And as for cnc backings being over rated, I would say so. Best brake Ive used ran rockman green pads in standard magura plastic backings. It wouldnt budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I personally dont use glue with my yellows in their Cnc backings. Tight enough fit 'dry'. And as for cnc backings being over rated, I would say so. Best brake Ive used ran rockman green pads in standard magura plastic backings. It wouldnt budge. I agree that they won´t change the feel of the brake much,but I feel safer when I know my pads won´t fail like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 They are rock man blue pads which always seem to crack their backings, that's the only reason for his fall in the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Exactly. Its not often you see/ hear of plastic backings snapping. But I suppose peace of mind will come from running cnc backings. Id say theres nothing wrong with plastic though. If there was pad companies wouldnt still be using them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Exactly. Its not often you see/ hear of plastic backings snapping. But I suppose peace of mind will come from running cnc backings. Id say theres nothing wrong with plastic though. If there was pad companies wouldnt still be using them..... Companies are using them because they are cheap.Yes,they are rockmans,my heatsinks snapped just like that(both pads actually)...Plastic backings are fine if you are light rider and don´t go too big.I don´t see the reason why risk injury though if they aren´t that expensive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I don't go that big, not like tunnicliffe or someone.. I've never had a problem with plastic backs and find them much stronger than Cnc, I find them impossible to get out of their backings. I'll order the plastic ones now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I don't go that big, not like tunnicliffe or someone.. I've never had a problem with plastic backs and find them much stronger than Cnc, I find them impossible to get out of their backings. I'll order the plastic ones now. Yeah it´s very hard to get them out of the backings,but not so hard to break the backing itself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Plastic backings are fine if you are light rider and don´t go too big. Seemed like there were a lot of riders going pretty big before CNC backings were available, without any problems at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Seemed like there were a lot of riders going pretty big before CNC backings were available, without any problems at all? You can't possibly be saying that our good friend ghostrider88 could be wrong, can you?! Bold move... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Seemed like there were a lot of riders going pretty big before CNC backings were available, without any problems at all? It´s very possible,but do you know how often they used to change them?Just out of curiosity,there´s few monsters in here like neil,damon,TRA maybe they could answer this?I don´t know what´s this debate about again,I´m saying they are much safer option,am I wrong?There´s no real advantage running plastic backings,saying that they are cheaper is really short sighted too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Shitty wok pads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Shitty wok pads LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I´m saying they are much safer option,am I wrong?There´s no real advantage running plastic backings,saying that they are cheaper is really short sighted too... I just don't really see the "Much safer" thing. No doubt CNC pads are safer, but saying that plastic backed pads are "dangerous" because a few people have snapped plastic backed pads seems 'really short sighted too'. There seem to hardly have been any people who broke them, especially compared to the sheer volume of plastic backed pads out there. We send out countless sets of plastic pads a day, and in the 2+ years I've been working here I think we've had one person e-mail us with a snapped backing. I personally used plastic backed pads for 7 years with no problems, and that included reusing the same PowerPad backings for a while when I was making my own Coust refills and messing around with other pad types. In the UK, plastic backed pads tend to be half the price of CNC backed pads. Some people just can't justify spending double the amount for what they see as a minimal gain in terms of brake feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Pretty sure the only reason that Rockman pads snapped was because they used too much or too strong a de-greaser which weakened them.....that's the excuse they gave anyway. I've seen cnc backings snap, but not any of the ones that are on the market now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I just don't really see the "Much safer" thing. No doubt CNC pads are safer, but saying that plastic backed pads are "dangerous" because a few people have snapped plastic backed pads seems 'really short sighted too'. Why risk it though? In the UK, plastic backed pads tend to be half the price of CNC backed pads. Some people just can't justify spending double the amount for what they see as a minimal gain in terms of brake feel. Yes I know they are more expensive,but in long run this isn´t a factor.But enough with this,it´s up to everyone what they wanna choose I know I wan´t choose plastic backings anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I think the main thing is that people don't see it as 'a risk'. It's such an unusual occurrance that I don't think it's really an issue for most people. It's like replacing chains - if you wanted to try and make sure you never snap your chain you'd replace it every 4-6 weeks, but hardly anyone does. I'd say that was more of a 'risk' than the chances of a plastic backing snapping, for example. But yeah, to each their own though I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Would the extra flex in the plastic backings create more initial bite? Or hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 you are the most brake obsessed person I have ever seen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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