Laurence--Trials Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) I have no idea if people will be able to see this due to the fact that its on facebook but just wanting to see if i can improve me gap technique atall? Edited February 2, 2012 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 cant seee!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 bummer.. Shal have to see if i can get it uploaded on Vimeo or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 bummer.. Shal have to see if i can get it uploaded on Vimeo or something. Or just change the privacy of the video to 'Public', it's on the right hand side under the video IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Or just change the privacy of the video to 'Public', it's on the right hand side under the video IIRC Its on my mums facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 tips for nose manuals would be cool too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I'm shit at gaps which is why i know exactly what you are doing wrong. You need to be closer to the edge on preload, when you preload the tyre/wheel will fold over the edge. When you kick this will make your effort spring you forward. This advice, although coming from me here, is from various shit hot riders telling me over and over again, cos I just don't get it lolz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Okay, thanks Matt, shal give this a go, appreciate it Didn't think i'd get any tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yeah pinch gapping as Matt said. Concentrate on being smoother and you'll initially loose distance but will gain it back and more, AND it won't look real harsh like it does now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Doesn't look like there is a lot wrong with your technique, you're getting some good distance. But as Matt said, being closer to the edge will give you more spring and you'd probably be able to squeeze an extra couple of inches without realising it. Only other thing I'd say is maybe try to gap 'up' more to get more hang time and therefore distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 When you hop, it looks like you are throwing your body upwards rather than across the gap. Which obviously does marvellous wonders for the height but not so much distance. Perhaps try and throw your body across rather than up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Only other thing I'd say is maybe try to gap 'up' more to get more hang time and therefore distance. When you hop, it looks like you are throwing your body upwards rather than across the gap. Which obviously does marvellous wonders for the height but not so much distance. Perhaps try and throw your body across rather than up. Aaaaannnnddd as you can see theres more than one way to skin a cat. I find if you go up, you can extend your rear wheel out infront of you more, cushioning the landing and being smoother. Or you can just go hard and fast kinda straight point to point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Aaaaannnnddd as you can see theres more than one way to skin a cat. I find if you go up, you can extend your rear wheel out infront of you more, cushioning the landing and being smoother. Or you can just go hard and fast kinda straight point to point. Brilliant! Yeah everyone does things differently I guess, its a case of trying until you find what suits you. Some people seem to dip below the level of the gap and back up for the landing - no idea how that works, but its their technique and it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Aaaaannnnddd as you can see theres more than one way to skin a cat. I find if you go up, you can extend your rear wheel out infront of you more, cushioning the landing and being smoother. Or you can just go hard and fast kinda straight point to point. There seems to be two ways to gap from what I have seen. The first is how I would say most people do it, get to the edge, preload, get height, extend legs and land. There isn't anything wrong with this technique and it's handy if you need to go over something, but on larger gaps it can make the landings pretty harsh. This way the rider usually twists the bike which can make some landings awkward and less accurate. The second is how some of the comp guys to it (Stan Shaw being one of the best I have seen) where you start off exactly the same, but instead of getting height, you let the bike stay level or in extreme cases (Like Stan) even let the back wheel go lower than the level of the gap. I've seen this technique get some impressive distances. It's a little odd as you actually gap perfectly straight, it also has the bonus of SUPER smooth landings and really good control and accuracy. Not so great if the gap is low or you need to go over something though. Laurence, you are doing the first technique which is fine, it does look like you need to pinch off the edge even more than your second vid shows. That gaps not small though, probably bigger than I can do now so all I can say is practice and it will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 check out 5:55 for what I mean. that gap from the block to block is 9ft, so going up to the back of the bench is nuts, he doesn't go up, he doesn't go down, he just goes in a straight line from take off to landing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Thanks, that helped alot its only around 70inches, used to be able to do around 84 but lost 14ish inches over the winter. Idealy i'd like a style like Borisevich Pavel, i dont really like the look of the "mid air wheely" typed style. The vid was my first ride practicing the pinch gaps, i think i'm getting better already IMO, not sure what you guys think though. Shal look at the vid now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 you can't really force a style, if you ride enough you'll get your own it will either be nice, or not so nice, trying to force one usually ends up not so nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Oh fair doos, i'll just have to ride, practice and see what it comes out like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Would it be better if i ran harder preasures while im learning pinch gaps so that i really have to force my rear wheel into the corner and make myself spring off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I wouldn't change anything really, may as well practice them as you would normally have your bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Slow mo's Music probably isn't to everyone's taste but its just a test edit. Edited February 5, 2012 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon W Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'm shit at gaps which is why i know exactly what you are doing wrong. You need to be closer to the edge on preload, when you preload the tyre/wheel will fold over the edge. When you kick this will make your effort spring you forward. This advice, although coming from me here, is from various shit hot riders telling me over and over again, cos I just don't get it lolz. i would actually go further back personally, going on the edge springs you downnnnn, which looses distance. Would it be better if i ran harder preasures while im learning pinch gaps so that i really have to force my rear wheel into the corner and make myself spring off? NOPE! MORE SIDEWAYS, further sideways you face the further you go, watch neils vids he does it alot better then me, its great to watch 2.12 2.18 not in anyway on the edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Can see where you comming from, maybe i could try to learn the pinch technique then i can do something to combine the two? We'll see, i guess i should do what feels right? Edited February 8, 2012 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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