0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 the benefits of high bottom bracket should be quite appartent as soon as you go near any comp senerio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 ...if the comp has been designed to be ridden on one wheel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 explain why all modern comp frames have at least +60 bb then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Because most comps are designed to be ridden on one wheel. Next question? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 your clearly follow your competitions quite closely, what is your problem? why are you trying to like out do me, lol sure get weird kicks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 your clearly follow your competitions quite closely, what is your problem? why are you trying to like out do me, lol sure get weird kicks.. Just because a lot of us don't ride comps any more, doesn't mean we aren't aware of the scene still. Facts are facts, and if that bothers you then why argue about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 where did i mention about you not riding comps any more, also if you kept your eye on the comp scene you would realize it is all not just back wheel everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Trying to out do you? Christ, it's a discussion on a topic, not a competition about competitions. Most high end comp bikes are designed around a high BB as it's more appropriate for top level comps. These comps are predominantly ridden on the rear wheel, rather than rolling around much. Hell, riders carry their bikes between sections for christ's sake! If you look at any more street-oriented comp (though these are becoming fewer and further between) the bikes used are all shorter with lower BBs. I wasn't trying to out do you, it's called stating facts. Oh and while we're on the subject, I keep myself remotely interested in what's going on in the comp scene thanks, I just choose not to be such a part of it now. Back on topic: Matt, presumably you've ridden Dave's bike a fair bit? Try and play on some of the stuff you normally ride on that, then session some natty on the Zeb. Should give a vague idea of which you could live with more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 a comp where you have to ride between sections would be cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 why say "next question?" some people on here really need to pipe down its pathetic you all think your big time and better then any body else its getting boring now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 It's the age old "If you ask a stupid question you'll get a stupid answer". If it bothers you that much just ignore me and I might go away. But yeah, Matt, I added a bit to the last post while you were posting in case you missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 i didnt ask a question, i just said that you would probably realise the benefits of a high bb in a comp. which is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossatron Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 as said, they couldn't be much more different! If you like to ride a big bmx as some narrow minded people might call it then get the inspired and have more fun than you could imagine. If you want to do bigger sidehops and maybe enter comps then the Echo makes quite a good seatless trials bike, I've ridden Duncan's and it's pretty nice. Big LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 explain why all modern comp frames have at least +60 bb then Because most comps are designed to be ridden on one wheel. i didnt ask a question Question. Noun: A sentence worded or expressed so as to elicit information Edit; Sorry matt, made a fair old mess of this (though I semi-suspect that was the idea) I'm out. Ozzy if you really want to keep going feel free to fire over a PM or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 comps are not all ridden on there back wheel? dont know any comp where i have seen some one ride a comp doing just back wheel moves, hell qubec (canada) world round last year or the year before had 2 massive kickers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24martin Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 comps are not all ridden on there back wheel? dont know any comp where i have seen some one ride a comp doing just back wheel moves, hell qubec (canada) world round last year or the year before had 2 massive kickers.. im trying my best to not get involved here but im pretty sure luke didn't mention anything about comps being 'just back wheel moves', though he did mention 'on one wheel'.. which could be either one of the two wheels that most bike's have fitted to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I'd call that one - nil Rainbird! In all fairness both the Echo and the Inspired and for that matter Onza, Zoo, Monty ect are all BICYCLES! ie they have 2 wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 you lot are clueless. why do you lot all have so much beef with me and dave and all? isit because we dont follow the crowd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Back on topic: Matt, presumably you've ridden Dave's bike a fair bit? Try and play on some of the stuff you normally ride on that, then session some natty on the Zeb. Should give a vague idea of which you could live with more. Problem with this plan is i ride with my brakes arse backwards so never really get a proper test of another bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 im trying my best to not get involved here but im pretty sure luke didn't mention anything about comps being 'just back wheel moves', though he did mention 'on one wheel'.. which could be either one of the two wheels that most bike's have fitted to them. Are you serious?! Lol! Gotta agree with ozzy though and go against the grain. Id be amazed to see anyone go through a competition mainly on their back wheel... thats carthy level! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 yet carthy still wheel swaps, hooks, pigeons, taps etc... comps are defo not all on the back wheel they would be impossible not even gilles goes through a section just on his back wheel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Luke and Ozzy both have a point here: If you're looking to ride comps on this 'new bike' and when you not at comps your riding on rocks, then by all means the Echo is the better bike. The Inspired in comparison will feel awkward on rocks due to the geometry not being centered around that sort of riding, and it'd weigh more than the Echo too. Likewise if you mostly ride on the street and enjoy doing something different to just doing static moves and hopping around on the rear wheel then get the Inspired. The Echo will be more difficult to do anything involving a bit of motion (roll-ups, taps, spins, etc..), and the Echo will be more fragile. To some up:Comps, natural, static moves, lightness = Echo.Street, rolling moves, fun, durability = Inspired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 So it's OK to generalise about the riding that those on BIG BMXs do, but not OK to generalise about pogo sticks? f**k off and get over yourselves, seriously. Also note that 'you lot' are the ones throwing insults and name calling, and not us 'clueless' lot. Grow up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 forum arguments are amazing they make me grow a few inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Im not against any type of trials riding. Whilst comp riding is VERY skillfull its not my cup of tea. Street is more my thing but i am also well aware that this sport came from comp riding it doesnt mean anything else is "wrong". Look at BMX It started as racing and now we have all different styles of bmx and nobody complains about that. Sorry to the author of this thread for fuelling the flames and turning this into another "that aint trials" arguement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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