D Rock 45 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 What is the performance of a smooth rim like compeared to a medium grind ? Never riden smooth rim brfore. I dont use a brake booster and my pads are atoms if this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The Atom clear pads? They're probably more suited to a smooth rim than a grind. If the weather was consistantly dry in the UK I'd run smooth + tar to keep the paint on my sidewalls and not have to f**k about with grinding. As the weather is shite 90% of the time though its gotta be a grind for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mysterious leemur Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I would say grind is much better , it stays working in the wet , gives great performance ( TNN LGM for the win) . Side note on tar , although it helps performance it can make your brake stick on which isn't fun , I have dislocated my shoulder because of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Smooth rims for the mother f**king win. People with grinds: distribute your weight better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_coggan Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 ive ran both and its down to pads to be honest i fount the tnn green pads to be good on smooth with a tad of tar as good as the same pads on a medium grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Rock 45 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The Atom clear pads? They're probably more suited to a smooth rim than a grind. If the weather was consistantly dry in the UK I'd run smooth + tar to keep the paint on my sidewalls and not have to f**k about with grinding. As the weather is shite 90% of the time though its gotta be a grind for me. ye there the clear ones, i had a good medium grind left from my old rim i had and they worked fine an wear was ok, when my new wheel build arives today i think i will run a smooth rim no tar though, dont like the stuff. And i do hope the weather says fine its been sunny on for the past week an i was with out a bike But if it does ran i will be suck in i guess Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) So many benefits to a rim grind as opposed to a smooth. You can ride in the wet and still maintain your confidence, yeah maybe a smooth rim might hold you for a bit but the chances of it slipping are so much higher than with a grind. Can ride in dodgy conditions (shipley glen rocks) where there is dirt etc, grind doesn't really get affected by it. Ask every competition rider who ride natural and see if they have a grind, I can guarantee unless they have dual disk, that they will have a grind. Smooth rim just loses confidence imo. Edited January 16, 2012 by dann2707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Smooth rim + good pads + tar = brilliant performance in the dry. Better even than I've found LGM's to be on a harsh grind. The downside of a smooth rim and tar is that the pads may stick a bit so it's less responsive. But the hold is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The best brake I ever remember having was a smooth D521 with original Plaz CRMs cleaned with muc-off. However, it was the best brake for about 20 minutes riding street until either a bit of dust landed on the rim or some light drizzle came. Then it was useless. Needless to say I have run a grind for the past 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt24. Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 In the last ten years I have tried pretty much most variations grind no grind, tar, monty brake spray, various other substances for grip, but have to say after that period of time have gone back to a smooth rim well set up. If you spend the time to set up your brake well with either v or hs33 a smooth rim with decent pads will perform very well. I would however invest in a booster. I have always found that keeping the brake clean rather than using additional substances to make it more grabby is far more effective. I do agree with people above though that if you ride natural a lot or ride in the wet then a grind will be the only way to save you looping out, but if you are a fair weather rider then just take the time to set up your brake properly, grab yourself a booster and keep it clean............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Rock 45 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 thanks for all your reaplys. I wont cancel out not rim grinding again, but i will give it a go on smooths for a bit as soon as they wear in, which bring me to another question. how can i wear the brake pads in quicker, at the moment i have no bit an a small amount of hold, sloppy really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Smooth rim + good pads + tar = brilliant performance in the dry. Better even than I've found LGM's to be on a harsh grind. Really? The thing I like about having good pads and a grind is that you get consistency. With tar, you never really know if it's going to feel the same, if the pads are just going to stick on, etc. Tar also sucks for modulation from my experience, whereas with a decent grind you can still feather your brake a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Really? The thing I like about having good pads and a grind is that you get consistency. With tar, you never really know if it's going to feel the same, if the pads are just going to stick on, etc. Tar also sucks for modulation from my experience, whereas with a decent grind you can still feather your brake a bit. isnt that to do with the consistency of how the tar was applied to the rim, iv seen people just rub tar randomly and iv seen people spin the wheel then rub it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Rock 45 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 ive used tar before an put it on in a thin line around the rim spinning the wheel but i never liked it. pads stick to much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, but it seems to wear unevenly compared to a grind from my experience. Not to mention with a grind you know it can be pretty evenly applied, but with every block of tar I've had there have sort of been 'seams' of good bits mixed with some of bad bits so even if you're applying it all the same way it won't necessary work the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 If you want to stick with a smooth rim and only ride in the dry then I've found Heatsink yellows are unbeatable. I used to run them when I didn't want to grind my rim cause I was a tart and if I could get away with it I'd probably still be doing so now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete.M Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm using Zoo! pads on a smooth rim, plenty hold for a beginner. Top tip: If the ground might be wet/muddy/dusty then just take a cloth with you to wipe the rim when necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Rock 45 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) thats another thing thats poping up, smooth rims = no ride in the wet which i do like to do when its not to bad. ye i cleaned my rim as best i could was cold out could that effect the brake i will give it till afternoon tomorrow to see if it improves, if not i will be grinding i think it does seem better in the long run Edited January 16, 2012 by D Rock 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Rock 45 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 i have decided to just rim grind, its better for dry, wet, cold an a bit of mud. and as some one said confidence will be better thanks for all your opinions on the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Smooth rims for the mother f**king win. People with grinds: distribute your weight better. say that to gilles, clueless... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 say that to gilles, clueless... Shall do, knob jockey... Oooh look, I can be a complete idiot too. Detect how far my tongue was in my cheek the first time then go f**k yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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