shamus Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Gotcha, makes more sense! I've become pretty good at knowing my core and leg limits through recovering a slightly torn adductor muscle. I'll give it a whirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 After reading the majority of this out of bordom, I can safely conclude I'd rather be a fat f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbarr Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Going to the gym quite regularly now. Around four times a week, but I really don't think I get enough protein. Need some advice on what to buy. There's this on ebay which is nice and cheap. But are there any disadvantages of it's cheapness? Would this from Myprotein be a better option? Cheers. Edited February 16, 2012 by davidbarr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 15 stone at 6' isn't exactly 'haven't done it'.... you never told me how big you are? (i hate to have to ask such a gay question, but you asked me) have you ever been to a gym? have you ever weight trained? i don't mind being shot down, not everything i say will be right. but i would at least like to be by someone who has a real interest in the physical side of the subject. not just the chem. anyhow, you still have offered no advice. how do i build lean muscle? seriously, id like to hear your advice... your bound to know stuff i don't. maybe vise versa. thats the whole point of a forum isn't it? Off topic, is that you in your avatar preloading for that hefty looking gap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totally steaming!! Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) ive been using USN or maximuscle shakes recently but theyre so expensive, but i just found this anyone seen it before, really cheap... seen some good reviews on different websites but you can never tell if they were just site uploaded. Off topic, is that you in your avatar preloading for that hefty looking gap? yar, it not as big as it looks few years ago now though Edited February 16, 2012 by totally steaming!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) This stuff is amazing but expensive. http://www.amazon.com/M-R-I-Pro-NOS-Dutch-Chocolate-Royale/dp/B001AVT78O/ref=pd_sim_hpc_2/180-5217832-2504728 Edited February 16, 2012 by Rusevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon W Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 There's a 20-60 minute window for when your muscles are screaming out for nutrients, but protein takes a lot longer than that to get into the blood as I understand it. only if its casein protein, whey protein is fast acting personally i use http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/4304/1/Hyper-Strength-Hyper-Gain-5.4kg.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totally steaming!! Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 well that matrix anabolic stuff just arrived. 5kg supplying 100 servings of total foulness! blurrrgggghhhhhh tastes like animal feed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss-Higgy Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYnl_c4ns5A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I eat scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Okay so I've never used protein shakes before, currently going the gym 3-4 times a week, spending way more time on cardio. Are protein shakes worth my time? As in I'm thinking of speed of recovery/building of muscle more than to be a big juicy juicer. Plus, it's easier than cooking or making something for replenishment. I just realised that I actually asked this earlier in the thread, how retarded of me... Edited February 23, 2012 by MonsieurMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Double post of lameness. Best place to buy protein online? I'm not sure what prices are right etc, but looking for cheap quality, not just plain old cheap and nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbarr Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Double post of lameness. Best place to buy protein online? I'm not sure what prices are right etc, but looking for cheap quality, not just plain old cheap and nasty. I got a kilo of the impact whey from myprotein. Very good price, and delivery was quick. link Can't really comment on results yet, as I've only just started using it, but it seems to have brilliant reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Finished off my first load of myprotein impact whey too, very impressed. Gonna try a more mass oriented one from the same site next, but definitely recommend them either way. Getting a shaker is obvious, but remember to buy a scoop with them too as they don't come with one and consistency is pretty key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 if you can stand the taste, nutrisport 90+, if you cant reflex/my protein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) No Shakers from MyProtein, I was looking at their all in one stuff, that've got a bit of carbs and creatine in them, was thinking about doing half doses as I don't train everyday so the creatine stays in my system and there'd be less waste of days when I don't go the gym or whatever. But I'm not sure if it'd just be easier to get whey protein and keep going as I am. I can't say I really understand this shit at all. I doubt I'll be able to deal with the taste regardless, so it'll just be neck neck neck Edited February 28, 2012 by MonsieurMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 if your getting one with carbs and protein, may as well just get a weight gainer for half the price, and cut out 2 slices of toast or whatever. obviously each servings half the price of protein, but it has half the protein in it. Im never a huge fan of creatine for £ per lb of weight(either in mass or strength form), its only really good for eeking out them last couple of reps, at which point i think its a placebo, far better to have a training partner that gives you crap if you dont lift till you start to cry. if your buying a shaker,the ball shakers are way better than the gauze ones, ideally one with a heavy metal ball that sinks nice and quick. can get them for like £2 off ebay, and you can drink other stuff out of them too(in case you wernt sure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 So are we saying just go for pure protein? Let my diet do the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 So are we saying just go for pure protein? Let my diet do the rest? personally i would, unless your really struggling to get calorie elsewhere. which given the fact you want to lose weight, your not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Cool, any advice on any other supplements that would be worth my time? I'm thinking of bashing out 1 or 2 hardcore months at the gym, doing 4-6 times a week and doing things a little more properly. If I can get away with just protein, my purse is gonna be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've tried other stuff, but honestly the only thing ive found worth the cash is protein. and Id pick real food over protein any day, its just its way too easy to spend £100+ a week on eating right, subbing a couple of chicken breasts for a protein shake, soon drops that cost dramatically. other supplements, if there legal, are imo largely a waste of time(only exception is possibly stuff like jack3d, but i dont like the effects of it, and ill come onto its legality a bit more in a second) if stuff gave you an edge in training i.e it made you stronger/quicker/more powerful, it'd be banned in sports (and youd fail an olympic drugs test on jack3d i believe, purely because of its stupid high caffeine content, setting off readings relating to other stimulants(ephedrine/amphetamines etc)) if it wasnt as quick acting and just made you bigger/leaner over a set amount of time, itd be banned in sports and also banned in animal feeds. (google the steroid finaplex, then google finaplex cows, google the weight loss drug clenbuterol, then google chinese clenbuterol pigs) because if it gave you an actual edge it'd be banned in sports, if it made you more meat less fat for a worthwhile price, farmers would be feeding it to their cattle. And i dont know of any cows on a creatine and BCAA supplemented diet. Sure its a pretty flawed argument, but I think you get the point. As for illegal supplements, thats not something to discuss on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Wasn't thinking of anything illegal, just basically the best product for the price. I found this bad boy. £40 for 5kg seems pretty insane, especially considering that's pretty much the same price/kg for some whey. Sorry if I'm just questioning what you're saying, but that seems to have a lot of protein/amino acids rocking in there, so just checking If it helps, I just want to build muscle and cut fat, nothing else, I don't want to be enormous, just well built, think athlete more than bodybuilder. I just dunno what to get, there's like 40 things that seem to be almost the same, but do completely different things, some shit rocking out 1000cals per serving and whatever. My mind. Edited February 28, 2012 by MonsieurMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Getting carbohydrate into your system as fast as possible after cardio, particularly intense cardio that works your anaerobic system and therefore emphasises muscle glycogen over fat, is the best means of replacing muscle glycogen, speeding up recovery and avoiding fatigue the following day. I've seen significant differences in the rate of recovery/fatigue from ingesting lots of carbs and protein straight after exercise. A proper meal is obviously better but a recovery drink is effective. If you can get to a proper meal as soon as you get home this is worth doing. If you're doing runs or something similar at a relaxed pace for 30 mins or less I wouldn't worry about what I'm saying but anything more than this will help you feel better the next day. Also if you do long distance at slow paces it's just as important to get carbohydrates into your system as fast as possible. Muscle glycogen is still being used as well as fat but to a lesser degree but also for longer which means it can still deplete even though fat is its primary energy source. I think we have, on average, 1500 calories of usable glycogen in the muscles, a few hundred in the liver and we can hold about 80-100 in the blood stream - that's why gels, energy powder, etc. and the like are around that quantity. Typically we hold around 30-40000 in the form of fat though. Muscle glycogen is carbohydrate converted into a form that can be stored and used from the muscles, btw. Edited February 28, 2012 by Ben Rowlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Anyone looking for an easy carb boost, I highly recommend My proteins flavorless instant oats to add to a shake, think it's around 80 - 100g per serving and 650 + kcal per shake with milk, 40+ g of protein. Easy on the stomach, cheap and nice as furrrrrkkk Edited February 29, 2012 by Deonn h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Cheers Ben, didn't know a lot of that. So I'm doing about 40 mins of interval training, maybe a little more depending on how long I can go for. Then about the same again of weights. I'm doing that 3 times a week, wanting to do more but I dunno if my body can cope with it But I'm trying to lose weight and gain definition, I'm starting to think a low carb high protein mix might be best? Like a 70 30 split? I do try to get it with food, but eggs and tuna are expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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