ellingtj Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Of course it would help,just look at some pictures of benito or damon and you will se how flexible they are. Never feel like I'm limited flexibilty wise whilst riding though (sheer lack of ability does that), I have a quick stretch before going out but haven't every noticed anyone else doing much in the way of stretching before comps/rides. Though this could be down to most riders are young enough to be naturally flexible whilst I'm ancient. I'll try to do some more daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) haha i did enjoy the small 'Boom' at the end there the OP? original poster at a guess?! that was very similar to my advice when i messaged him - get basic upper body strength up to a standard (enough to control your own body weight) - core work for balance and allround stability - riding and basic unweighted step jumps (if you do decide to include a plyometric specific session as they can do in 10mins what an hour of riding can do) all very complex talking about muscle fibres and wont apply to many just yet...i am still genuinely interested about the most efficient body strength/weight/speed ratio (coupled with gear ratio) for trials.....and how much of the jump is down to the quick turn of the wheel and how much is down to the body jumping/pulling up id be curious to see sprint track cyclists try trials with their explosive speed and power?! 3 squats of 250kg...that would be some acceleration on the rear wheel! or alternatively trials highjumper who can clear 2.40m :/ hmmm just read britains leading female bmxer can squat 150kg! not bad compared to the likes of TRA Edited December 17, 2011 by chris4stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 haha i did enjoy the small 'Boom' at the end there the OP? original poster at a guess?! and yes, an accurate assumption. Well i guess he should be reassured if both of us are saying the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 From what i've learned, training for more strength increases fast twitch muscle fibres and it is fast twitch muscle that is mostly used for trials. You seem to be pushing the idea that if you train for strength you'll be slower, which just isn't true. Spot on.Also sprinters are a good example,maurice green did 200kg squat 4reps and also did some heavy power cleans.My trainer at college also did that(squat 200 for 2,power cleaned 150kg).I would say this is perfect example how heavy weights/low reps build dynamic strenght.I would like to know how giles trains,but based on his looks,he is deffo doing some heavy squats(big ass,relatively big thighs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted December 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Went round my uncles yesterday, used his bench press/weights managed a 45kg squat 12 reps and 45kg bench press with 5 reps, pretty happy with it considering its only 13kg off my body weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Went round my uncles yesterday, used his bench press/weights managed a 45kg squat 12 reps and 45kg bench press with 5 reps, pretty happy with it considering its only 13kg off my body weight. damn you´re light guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 58kg?! I'm 76ish an I'm looking to add another 10kg by summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockett Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 I train 5 days a week Day 1: Shoulders (Delts) Day 2: Arms (Biceps, Triceps) Day 3: Legs (Quads, Hamstrings) Day 4: Back (Traps, General Back) Day 5: Chest (Pecs) When training for any sport or for overall fitness, you should always train the whole body as all muscle groups require opposite groups, for example, biceps work with your triceps as opposing muscle groups. Also exercising your legs especially weight training sparks an increase in anabolic hormones which then causes an increase of the whole body. Also I recommended that you do supersets while undergoing weight training at the gym as it hits your muscle groups hard rather than just doing a single exercise and then resting. For example, if you are really wanting to increase your back size and strength, you will want to work on a compound exercise followed by an isolation exercise, so this will include a Deadlift followed by chin-ups or pull-ups. Wide grip pull-ups will give you the best increase in back size and strength. Also after your first exercise, in this case the Deadlift, make sure you go straight onto the Isolation exercise without rest, rest should be undertaken after the second exercise (Isolation in this case). Muscular Endurance: 12-18 Reps Size and Strength: 4-8 Reps If you don't understand compound or isolation exercises, just search them on google or any exercise website. Personally I started Trial biking around 2 months ago, so I am still learning the basics. sorry but wouldn't train like this atall, unless you want you want out of proportion arms because you train biceps when you train back and tri's with chest, 5 days a week is a big split is well but only you no whats good for you but the most important thing to remember its only 30% in the gym its all about what you eat!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTommyTickles92 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 sorry but wouldn't train like this atall, unless you want you want out of proportion arms because you train biceps when you train back and tri's with chest, 5 days a week is a big split is well but only you no whats good for you but the most important thing to remember its only 30% in the gym its all about what you eat!!! That training programme worked perfect for me, I recorded all weight and reps and how I felt on the day, so I could eventually see gains in strength as well as keeping check of body fat and lean mass. The 30% is in the gym is true! I eat around 5 - 7 meals a day which you need to bulk. Meal 1: 3 Whole Eggs, 1/4 Cup of Oats and 1 Banana Meal 2: 1 Chicken Fillet with 75 grams of Brown Rice Meal 3: 3 Whole Eggs, 1/4 Cup of Oats and 1 Banana (or other fruit) Meal 4: Half a can of Tuna with Wholemeal Bread and Almonds Meal 5: 3/4 Greek Yogurt with Almonds or Cottage Cheese/Half a can of Tuna with Wholemeal Bread and Almonds Meal 6: Dinner - Any serving of Lean meat with vegetables or source of Carbs Meal 7: Bed-time - 1/2 cup of Cottage Cheese with Almonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Any one know what TRA is lifting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 damn you´re light guy Yepp, my weight constantly goes up and down. never over 9 stone never under 8.5 stone. Is what im lifting good for my weight? I do try to put on weight but i CANT do it, i eat like a f**king pig too! Any one know what TRA is lifting? A f**king tonne no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Any one know what TRA is lifting? Wasn't he lifting 170kg with his index fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Wasn't he lifting 170kg with his index fingers? 160kg and broke his distal phalanx doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 160kg and broke his distal phalanx doing it. Whats the distal phalanx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Whats the distal phalanx? You know what google is?It´s the same thing with you every damn time,use it! http://www.aafp.org/afp/2001/0515/afp20010515p1961-f5.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) You know what google is?It´s the same thing with you every damn time,use it! http://www.aafp.org/afp/2001/0515/afp20010515p1961-f5.jpg Only asked i thought you were a doctor or whatever so i thought i'd ask you = better awnser? Edited February 21, 2012 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Only asked, dont shit yourself. You "only ask" every time,google´s got answer for everything kid + you don´t have to be doctor to type that to the google a look at some pictures too Edited February 21, 2012 by ghostrider88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 You "only ask" every time,google´s got answer for everything kid + you don´t have to be doctor to type that to the google a look at some pictures too Sorry edited that, decided that was a little harsh Whats wrong with asking though? thats whats the forum is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Sorry edited that, decided that was a little harsh Whats wrong with asking though? thats whats the forum is for. It´s better to ask after doing some search first though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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