J Trials 31 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I really don't know how to explain it, but why do some hubs have nuts on the end. Like this one for example. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/1920_inch_wheels/onza_pro_wheelset/c61p11428.html And others with allen key type like this one http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/1920_inch_wheels/onza_blade_wheelset/c61p11427.html Is one any better than the other, and can you swap them and such? I've had both type and it seems the type with the nut may slide about in the frame more? I don't want wheels that move. LOL Just need some explanation on this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Griffin Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I think it's just personal preference, really. However I've always found allen key bolts are better, my pro II bolts have never given me any trouble. Having said that if either are slipping in your dropouts i can't help but think maybe you're not doing them up tight enough. What frame/rear hub have you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 It's not a current problem, was just curious. The frame I had was a Zhi Zm2, but I can't remember the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Probably little difference in terms of clamping force , but the difference is that the bolts depicted in the uppermost link screw onto a solid axle , whereas the the others screw into a hollow cylindrical axle . I guess the hollow axle like on Hope's Pro series an Chris King may be lighter and manufactured to higher tolerances than solid axles . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deagon Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Suppose it depends on your setup really. I found with my onza hub's allen key axle that it couldn't hold the front wheel still with a 160mm disk and 6 piston clim8 caliper (overkill brakes though). The alloy cup that clamped onto the fork was deforming and letting the wheel slip out of the forks under full braking for me. However, I've never ever had any issues with them on other bikes in the past using any other disk/rim brake systems . Even if you do ever have issues with one or the other, you'll find you can almost certainly swap and change between axle types very easily for only a few £/$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Nut type axles will usually be stronger (since they'll be steel) but appear on cheaper, heavier hubs, particularly with cup and cone bearings. Allen screw hubs will be lighter and generally nicer to work with as you only need an allen key rather than big ol' spanners. you'll find you can almost certainly swap and change between axle types very easily for only a few £/$. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I found with my onza hub's allen key axle that it couldn't hold the front wheel still with a 160mm disk and 6 piston clim8 caliper (overkill brakes though). Dont you mean 4piston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Dont you mean 4piston? Pretty sure he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Suppose it depends on your setup really. I found with my onza hub's allen key axle that it couldn't hold the front wheel still with a 160mm disk and 6 piston clim8 caliper (overkill brakes though) They aren´t that powerful,just heavy. Edited November 23, 2011 by ghostrider88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 There's no way I'd be running a disc on that setup anyway, it would probably be front vee, rear maggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deagon Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Nut type axles will usually be stronger (since they'll be steel) but appear on cheaper, heavier hubs, particularly with cup and cone bearings. Allen screw hubs will be lighter and generally nicer to work with as you only need an allen key rather than big ol' spanners. Really? yeah, but it really depends upon the hubs. Hence why i didn't say 'always'. I now have a 9mm solid axle on the hub i was talking about before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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