kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) Right, after getting annoyed with learning some of the more basic moves (due to crap weather and darkness restricting me) I've decided to leap ahead onto these. I'm starting to get it and get get the frame around 3/4 way round until i become unstuck..., any tips? I'm assuming pulling the front brake is cheating but is possibly advantageous when learning? Edited November 9, 2011 by kaybs41282 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Right, after getting annoyed with learning some of the more basic moves (due to crap weather and darkness restricting me) I've decided to leap ahead onto these. I'm starting to get it and get get the frame around 3/4 way round until i become unstuck..., any tips? I'm assuming pulling the front brake is cheating but is possibly advantageous when learning? I wouldn't say it's cheating, just using the bike you have to your advantage. Are you putting your foot over the frame (the BMX way) or endoing into it (the Danny Macaskill way)? But basically, if you're getting it that far round already, push into it more and commit to the leap back to the pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 if you can do it without the brake you'll learn the "correct" way with the foot over the toptube and having to jump into it. not to say you shouldn't endo into it but the other way is more usable in different places rather than just on the flat. If you are getting it that far round just try and go into it with a bit more momentum and keep your weight fairly far forwards, keep watching the pedals and jump your feet onto them. it can take a while to get used to where the pedals are, I still suck at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) I'm putting my foot over the top tube and kind of pulling the brake, putting my right foot on the wheel whilst kicking the frame with my left foot behind me (if that makes sense). How does the endo version work or is that what I'm doing? Should I be doing anything with the front wheel before pulling the brake to add momentum? Also, Ali what's the tail whip type move you do on the hex vid where you move as well as the frame? Edited November 9, 2011 by kaybs41282 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 yeah, that sounds like the bmx style "correct" way of doing them. the other one you described is a downside footjam whip. I find them the easiest out of all the techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Cheers... That can go next on the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Push with your leg and pump the bars to get enough whip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 i dont know if this will nececcerily (spelling?) help you but when i do it, i really jump forwards, then while my left foot is coming over the frame i really kick the rear end round and pump the bars, i jump really high too so i land on the tyre when the frame has already gone round about 1/4 of the way. the endo way is to do a 180 endo and mid-endo remove your right foot (if spinning to the left) and stand on the tyre, lift left leg over... bike keeps going round, you stop and stand on the tyre, hope this kinda helps you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Dont be snapping any hoses eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Nice one thanks everyone I'll have another crack tomorrow taking on board your tips Dont be snapping any hoses eh! It's gonna be close, they're looking pretty tight when the frame goes 360 degrees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 ill get the bleed kit ready! Might have a go with these! they look fun aha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 run front brake through stem? and lengthen rear brake hose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sounds like lot of hard work Carl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 run no brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 ill get the bleed kit ready! Might have a go with these! they look fun aha! Well have to get a ride sorted matey.... Anyway, I'll text you about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlperkins Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sounds like lot of hard work Carl! nah, 6 quid star nut/topcap/bolt kit from tartys, 2 new brake hoses and jobs done in 20 mins.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaybs41282 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I'm crap WITH brakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I'm crap WITH brakes! Same, but it gives you more excuses for being crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Was that essentially just 'ride along, do a foot jam tailwhip'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Pretty much, but he is doing them properly which is the main thing I much prefer the look of them like that 'cos the original kick tends to look a bit more natural, your position on the front wheel looks more natural/relaxed, plus it means you can 'catch' it in a nicer way because of your body position. If you want to get into doing pivot ones it also helps you spin your natural way and make the best use of the momentum you get from kicking the back end round too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooo Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ive just started learning these and wondered if anyone had any opinions on whether to learn the BMX or McSkills way ? Or is it just dependent on which way I want to spin ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 well I prefer the look of the bmx way, but the other way is easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Edited January 15, 2012 by alistair14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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