alistair14 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 As the title says! ..i was having a think about what makes someone a professional at anything and wondered what you lot thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Using a skill to make money. Making enough money to live from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGAN ?? Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Using a skill to make money. Making enough money to live from it. pretty much it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 "pro·fes·sion·al/prəˈfeSHənl/ Adjective: Of, relating to, or connected with a profession. Noun: A person engaged or qualified in a profession." "pro·fes·sion/prəˈfeSHən/ Noun: A paid occupation, esp. one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification. A body of people engaged in a particular profession" I don't know if - technically a "profession" is your living, or if you just get >£0.01 for it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 A highly skilled person who earns a living from what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andeee Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Good skills and experience i suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 When you get paid to ride your bike regardless of it being for a demo, or just your own time. Chris Akrigg and Danny Macaskill are the only two I can think of. In skating, it's when you have a pro model, so in that regards at the moment Danny would fit that description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupintart Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 When you get paid to ride your bike regardless of it being for a demo, or just your own time. Chris Akrigg and Danny Macaskill are the only two I can think of. In skating, it's when you have a pro model, so in that regards at the moment Danny would fit that description. Don't forget Leech...he's probably getting paid even when doing yoga whilst eating 10000000% organic garden fruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I was just mentioning UK riders but yeah, I am sure Leach counts too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 When I was a kid my Dad always said that a professional is someone who's been doing the sport/activity for over 1000 hours... But having read Revolvers comment, I'm not so sure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 When I was a kid my Dad always said that a professional is someone who's been doing the sport/activity for over 1000 hours... But having read Revolvers comment, I'm not so sure now. That's a popular definition of an expert rather than a professional. In terms of professional, it's not really an opinion but rather it's someone main income comes from doing whatever they do, and they could live off that income without any supplementary. So whereas Ali doesn't seem to class himself as a professional, I would (that's assuming I'm right when thinking your main income comes from demos and other such riding related activities). Selling yourself short there Mr C! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 yeah my main income is from demos, but I would class that as semi pro, If I don't do shows, I don't get paid, it's just not in the same class as althetes who have a salary regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 yeah my main income is from demos, but I would class that as semi pro, If I don't do shows, I don't get paid, it's just not in the same class as althetes who have a salary regardless. Yea that makes sense. Not a whole lot of pros in our sport then, as you said. Does Martyn count, or is that different because he basically runs what pays him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Surely when someone rides as a profession. They become a professional. In my view if Ali has no other job then it'd surely make him a professional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Ali sort of covered that before - he's effectively being paid for offering a service (as in he does a demo, and gets paid for demoing), whereas if you're 'pro' then you'd get paid to just live your life as a rider. As Ali said - if he doesn't do demos, he doesn't get paid. If - hypothetically - Danny Mac didn't ride for a day, he'd still get £'s from people at the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I'd say in BMX, Skateboarding, Inline and probably trials a pro is someone who has there own brand. Like CLS Python frames, Danny Mac did some shoes, something like that makes you big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) A professional is a person who is paid to undertake a specialised set of tasks and orchestrate them with uncommon skill. EDIT: Credit, Wikipedia. Edited November 1, 2011 by Luke Dunstan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 A professional is a person who is paid to undertake a specialised set of tasks and orchestrate them with uncommon skill. EDIT: Credit, Wikipedia. hmmm. I think Ali has hit the nail on the head. I do demos, and get paid for them, but I also have a full time job in which I get paid and orchestrate them with an uncommon skill... A professional sportsman 'should' (IMO) get paid a salary whether they are performing or not. Such as Danny at the moment. He has had his operation on his knee, isnt riding, but i'd imagine still getting paid by redbull. (although all the BJ's he might be giving to the men in suits @ redbull might justify his salary a little...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 When I was a kid my Dad always said that a professional is someone who's been doing the sport/activity for over 1000 hours... But having read Revolvers comment, I'm not so sure now. so we are all professional wankers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsIsHard Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 so we are all professional wankers ? Indeed we are, is that '1000 hours' meant to be taken literally? or is it meant to mean a bloody long time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 IM HOPING FOR 1000 HOURS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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