stuie Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sorry to do the same as alot of people on here but never seen or heard of this issue, I put on a new echo sl freewheel last night (the chain isn't really tight but tight enuff and chain is running straight) The problem I'm having is as I'm coasting along the freewheel from time to time is trying to engage rather than just coast along, what are the reasons for this??? Does it need bedding in where its new?? Also thing there should b a main freewheel topic, save all the questions being about freewheels. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Funny you should mention the SL, im in the process of returning one for tarty to take a look at. mine ran lovely for a month then as with you it trys to engage and makes a crunching sound when coasting along. Point 1 - did you lube it up when you got it? SL comes with no grease, (very important you do this) GT85 all the way! point 2 - did you find any little spots of oxidization on the outer case when you recieved it? point 3 - can you hear anything rattling around inside the freewheel? when i took mine of the bike and shook it i could hear small fragemnts ratling around inside which suggests to me one of the pawls or bearings may have been below standard and failed. I have NOT opened mine up as im sending it bk as a warranty case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I was told by mates to leave it and not put anything in it as it makes it slip loads.nothing on the outside and there was no sounds of rattles at all.only rode it round in circles that's why I thought It may just need bedding in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 No rattling could mean it has one too many bearings, they have a rattling sound as it it's missing a bearing but adding one in (which looks to be perfect) causes them to lockup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 No rattling could mean it has one too many bearings, they have a rattling sound as it it's missing a bearing but adding one in (which looks to be perfect) causes them to lockup To be completely fair, I didn't shake it around and listen out for anything as I didn't know about it, but there could have been a slight rattle. I guess it will take time to bed in. I hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Point 1 - did you lube it up when you got it? SL comes with no grease, (very important you do this) GT85 all the way! I didn't lube mine for months, the only time I did spray it with gt85 was after I had submerged my bike in water. Not had a skip from it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 By SL you mean the Ti model? Echo freewheels usually rattle, it's the ball bearings. Like someone already mentioned it appears as if 1 ball is missing from each race because there's a fairly big gap. A possible reason for no rattle is that the freewheel has been assembled to a tighter tolerance (meaning less spacers). From my experience many Echo freewheels had sideways play. This would obviously cause looser bearings which rattle more easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Absolutely drowned mine in GT85, worked perfect until I sold it with my old bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 By SL you mean the Ti model? Maybe he means the SL before they randomly decided to change the name to TR for no reason apart from confusing people? Who knows. Anyway: These freewheels may appear to 'rattle' from new - this is down to the bearing system. It would be possible to add an extra bearing in and stop the rattle, however this would then cause the freewheel to lock up! We get so many freewheels back that are absolutely fine but get returned because they 'rattle'. This is absolutely normal. It isn't nothing to worry about. If you've ridden in the wet since you got your freewheel and you haven't lubed it, it could just be that there's a little rust forming on the springs/pawls which would lead to it not quite engaging properly. We've had one or two back because of this (one was caused by someone washing their bike after every ride but not lubing anything up, so it was just rusty as hell inside). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Maybe he means the SL before they randomly decided to change the name to TR for no reason apart from confusing people? Who knows. Anyway: We get so many freewheels back that are absolutely fine but get returned because they 'rattle'. This is absolutely normal. It isn't nothing to worry about. If you've ridden in the wet since you got your freewheel and you haven't lubed it, it could just be that there's a little rust forming on the springs/pawls which would lead to it not quite engaging properly. We've had one or two back because of this (one was caused by someone washing their bike after every ride but not lubing anything up, so it was just rusty as hell inside). Well I rode it today, not hard just small gentle things. It ran fine but from time to time when it get to 11oclock (on a clock face) it seamed to grind to about 9oclock then its fine again.a few rotations along and it goes again. I'm stumped lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Mark the one im sending you guys back on monday aint just rattling a little. something inside is locking it up, getting caught up like a loose fragment of metal. I can unlock it manually and then spin it a few times before it locks up again, defo not ridable, anyways ill let you lads have a look in side it. it may be a bit of grit for all i know but i dont wana open the thing before you lads have had a look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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