Culshaw95 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Hi i was just wondering if there are any riders with the Ashton/Diamondback 26" and if so i was wondering if they have had any problems with their rear wheel slipping out of place. I have had this problem since i got the bike and i have come up with a design and it has been made and tested to stop the rear wheel coming out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I have one, and I solved it by adding small spacera each side on my tryall h hub and smear revolver and just got fresh bolts and done them up tad tighter then usual nd never does it. Fair play to you for trying just looks major bulky and horrid on them though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I have one, and I solved it by adding small spacera each side on my tryall h hub and smear revolver and just got fresh bolts and done them up tad tighter then usual nd never does it. Fair play to you for trying just looks major bulky and horrid on them though na its not to bad when you actually see it. I just started to get annoyed with the bike cause i have come of many times from it coming out of place so i got it made but i have grown a lot more confidence with them oni just never understood why it slipped out i always checked it had no grease on the axle and tightened it and then the other day not only did it come out it snapped the axle bolt aswell. I just thought it would be worth putting on just to see what people would say cause it has worked out pretty well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I ride with George and he's never seen mine come out, I know what you mean about confidence as does knock it abit, as I said props to you id never think of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph82 Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 If it slips out then thats a fault surely? Is this on the diamond back frames? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I ride with George and he's never seen mine come out, I know what you mean about confidence as does knock it abit, as I said props to you id never think of that. ah yeah haha i just went on your profile and noticed you were friends with him and tom, i remember him telling me about you. I dunno what has caused it happened when i got the bike was only till recently it started doing it again cause it did it when i got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Yeah George has mentioned that you had issues with yours, thought I was the only one with a Ashton, o think its just a flaw in the frame but when I sorted mine hasn't caused me any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 If it slips out then thats a fault surely? Is this on the diamond back frames? well when i got the bike off tartys i told them about it and they said "Sounds as though you have it not quite tight enough or it isn't installed correctly. Please ensure the hanger and tensioner are all setup correctly. A good way to do this is to sit on the bike backwards as you tighten the bolts, so the axle is all the way into the dropouts." i got it set up properly down my mates and he had a go and it came out again when it was tightened up Yeah George has mentioned that you had issues with yours, thought I was the only one with a Ashton, o think its just a flaw in the frame but when I sorted mine hasn't caused me any issues. ah right well its all sorted now haha and i might be coming up MK for like a week in the summer next year bringing the bike up just to ride with new people and ride a new area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 You seem to be running one of those non quick release skewers that run through the entire axle or am I seeing the pics wrong and it's a bolt on hub ? If it's one of those skewers , try replacing it with QR version , most Shimano ones offer good clamping force . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 You seem to be running one of those non quick release skewers that run through the entire axle or am I seeing the pics wrong and it's a bolt on hub ? If it's one of those skewers , try replacing it with QR version , most Shimano ones offer good clamping force . Don't really need to now to be honest cause i got that part made it has solved my problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I bet the bolts were bottoming out on the axle before clamping the frame tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I bet the bolts were bottoming out on the axle before clamping the frame tight When I ran my h hub in it Ali, I tried that even tried with tiny bolts, still didn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 sorry, I meant that the axle could be too long for the frame and stick past slightly which the bolts hit before tightening fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) Yeah when I first got mine at beginning of year, was either stan or Adam I spoke to about it, but usual spacers. I was the massive pain in the arse about a tiny crack Edited October 11, 2011 by onzatrip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 i thought the reason was because i got a bit of grease or something on my axle but when i cleaned it and roughened up the drop outs it still came out. It always does it when i get a puncture so when i take the wheel out it starts to come out of place when i check to see if its in correctly. After getting that part made i got more confidence in my riding so i was manning up to the challenge other than worrying about my dropouts. If i were to get spacers or something i would still probably be worried cause the amount of times i came of last week was a piss take haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestDump Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 sorry, I meant that the axle could be too long for the frame and stick past slightly which the bolts hit before tightening fully. That is a brilliant point Ali!! We never thought about that one ollie haha, but to be honest ollie, I recon slapping in some spacers either side of the drop outs would have worked perfectly, just this way your wheel if pretty much part of the frame, those 'parts' will make it a tad annoying when you have to take the wheel of I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 i've got an ashton too and my wheel never seems to be completely in the dropouts either i like the look of your idea, kind of like a bolt in axle setup whereabouts in dorset are you, i'm from blandford. wouldn't mind a look at your mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 i've got an ashton too and my wheel never seems to be completely in the dropouts either i like the look of your idea, kind of like a bolt in axle setup whereabouts in dorset are you, i'm from blandford. wouldn't mind a look at your mod Im from Weymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
err Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Im from Weymouth ah right, i wouldn't mind riding weymouth again one day, used to go quite often years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I never had this problem with my ashton, but I used a hope trials hub. I rekon Ali is right, just file some of the axle off either side?I never had this problem with my ashton, but I used a hope trials hub. I rekon Ali is right, just file some of the axle off either side? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I never had this problem with my ashton, but I used a hope trials hub. I rekon Ali is right, just file some of the axle off either side? I never had this problem with my ashton, but I used a hope trials hub. I rekon Ali is right, just file some of the axle off either side? Yeah but i have made that part thats what the whole post is about its showing how i solved the problem. I wanted to see what people thought of it but people are just saying ideas of how to stop it when its stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 To be fair matt, I know someone with your ashton and they had same issues, and the thing that we have in common including Oliver, we all run ffw and you ran a hope, only thing I'm thinking of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 To be fair matt, I know someone with your ashton and they had same issues, and the thing that we have in common including Oliver, we all run ffw and you ran a hope, only thing I'm thinking of. this is exactly the difference that is causing you all the problem (the very problem that ali said how to fix) and I have seen this loads of times before (though normally on steel frames cause the dropouts are often thinner). If you are using a qr or allen key bolt axle and the axle extends even slightly past the edge of the dropout you are not clamping the wheel to the frame when you tighten it you are clamping the bolt or qr to the axle and nothing more, hence your wheel will move. On the other hand a hope has a female axle, the more you tighten the shorter the axle gets. No matter how thin the dropout is the axle will always bottom out on the frame not itself. Thus a pro 2 will hold and a lot of other hubs wont. As has already been said adding a spacer between the hub and the dropout or filing a small bit off the edge of the axle will solve the problem and there is no need to make removing your wheel a bitch! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culshaw95 Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 its not made it any harder to remove the wheel, you don't have to take the whole adapter off you just take the axle bolts off thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I think that its cool, It may make your drop outs stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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