TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Hi. I'm a new Trials rider that's going to get my first bike, and I've settled for a 26" street, for numbers of reasons including I'm quite tall. So Is there anyone here that's been riding 24" and changed to 26" ? Or is just riding a 26" right now ? I'm aware that I will lose abit of maneuverability on the 26" since It's a larger bike, but I really just want to do the traditional street riding. (Getting up on objects and some bunnyhops and backhops here and there) But will the difference between a 24" and 26" be huge ? I can't escape the feeling that the 26" will be very clumsy ? Or maybe It's just all in my head. I'm sorry but I'm just having some decision anexiety Edited September 23, 2011 by TheCaptain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Watch any video with Ali C in it, and you'll see there's nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Watch any video with Ali C in it, and you'll see there's nothing to worry about. Yeah Alastair Clarkson ! Amazing rider, love him. Thanks, I'm sure I'm just beeing silly Edited September 23, 2011 by TheCaptain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 At the end of the day it's motivation - those wheels will go up and down and around fine if you put in the effort. Moreso if you're already used to that wheelsize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 At the end of the day it's motivation - those wheels will go up and down and around fine if you put in the effort. Moreso if you're already used to that wheelsize. Sweet Cause I'm riding on a 29er now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I'm a 26 street rider, but I'm going 24 at the earliest opportunity. Yea Ali can ride a 26 like a beast, but you're probably not Ali and rumour (or statements direct from the sources mouth) has it that he'd rather be riding a 24 too. There's some Scottish bloke who's pretty good at "Getting up on objects and some bunnyhops and backhops here and there" on a 24 too, I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) There's some Scottish bloke who's pretty good at "Getting up on objects and some bunnyhops and backhops here and there" on a 24 too, I hear. Yeah, but I'm almost 7 inches or 20 CM taller than Danny I've talked to a Tartybikes employee and he said that if I want to ride a 24" comfortable I need to change the Stem. And that's going to change the geometry of the bike and make it harder. But since I've never ridden trials, I can only take peoples word for it Edited September 23, 2011 by TheCaptain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yeah, but I'm almost 7 inches or 20 CM taller than Danny Height has f**k all relation to wheel size. See: Ben Rowlands. Height is related to the relative position of your feet on the cranks and your hands on the bars - this should be pretty much the same for you no matter what wheel size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Height has f**k all relation to wheel size. See: Ben Rowlands. Height is related to the relative position of your feet on the cranks and your hands on the bars - this should be pretty much the same for you no matter what wheel size. Oh all right ... so you think I'm going to have a much harder time with the 26" ? :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I certainly wouldn't ride 26" for street. I don't like it at all. I can't see myself ever riding anything other than 24" but then i'm only 5' 9" and i'm guessing from your comments your around 6' 5"? However as has been said, Ben Rowlands rides a Fourply and he's about that - he just runs it with uncut (i believe) Inspired forks and a high rise, short stem. A 26" won't hold you back due to that extra 2" of wheel size, but don't feel you have to ride that size due to your height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) I certainly wouldn't ride 26" for street. I don't like it at all. I can't see myself ever riding anything other than 24" but then i'm only 5' 9" and i'm guessing from your comments your around 6' 5"? However as has been said, Ben Rowlands rides a Fourply and he's about that - he just runs it with uncut (i believe) Inspired forks and a high rise, short stem. A 26" won't hold you back due to that extra 2" of wheel size, but don't feel you have to ride that size due to your height. Yeah a 26" wouldnt hold me back really would it ? Other than maybe spins and such, which I don't see me doing in the near future. I'm attracted to the "roll-ability" of the 26" for getting up on large surfaces and jumping between and such. But maybe I'm just totally lost Edit: I saw Tartybikes released a brand new bike now, the 26" Element ! Wouldnt that give me pretty much what I'm looking for ? Edited September 23, 2011 by TheCaptain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Well there is that...you see i ride with the young JD who commented previously and as he mentioned he rides a 26". On many occasions when doing a simple up, there will be many walls where he can get away with rolling it (front wheel on first - hoking the back up etc) or just out a small hop in to roll up - whereas i need to bunnyhop straight up most things. If you're beginning that might not be so ideal....depends on what sort of riding you're wnating to do in the long run. The Element is basically a cheaper Fourplay (with a fslightly different geo) and the 26" Element is like a cheapish Hex, again with some little tweaks. It'll no doubt be brilliant. Edited September 23, 2011 by Matthew62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 If you're beginning that might not be so ideal....depends on what sort of riding you're wnating to do in the long run Well I see me wanting to do abit more of the "pure street trial" moves, and not such much of the BMX'ish spins and flicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Go for something like the Element 26" then as it'll be lovely for traditional trials, but still perfectly capable at the more BMX inspired moves should you ever want to do them. Or if you have the cash, go for the Hex as it's better equiped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Go for something like the Element 26" then as it'll be lovely for traditional trials, but still perfectly capable at the more BMX inspired moves should you ever want to do them. Or if you have the cash, go for the Hex as it's better equiped. All right, then I will be ordering it in the end of the day. Thank you for showing interest and the help Is there anything else you'd recommend I'd buy ? Maybe replace a fragile part of the bike ? or equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Also look at the Hex Pro complete bike on Tarty. £200 more but you get hydraulic front and back brakes and a better headset and forks.... also the frame itself is nicer in terms of heatube/drop-outs etc With the Hex Pro then you wouldn't need to be changing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Also look at the Hex Pro complete bike on Tarty. £200 more but you get hydraulic front and back brakes and a better headset and forks.... also the frame itself is nicer in terms of heatube/drop-outs etc With the Hex Pro then you wouldn't need to be changing anything. Yeah ok, but I think I'll be going with this one fits my budget abit more snuggly Edited September 23, 2011 by TheCaptain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Just bare in mind that the Element is V brake only. If that suits you then all is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Just bare in mind that the Element is V brake only. If that suits you then all is well. Yeah I've noticed that, what's going to get more challenging then ? :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 What do you mean? All i'm pointing out is you can only run V Brakes on the Element, so if you're okay with that then go for it. With the Hex you can either run the Maguras it comes with (like most triasl riders run) or get adapters to run V-brakes. Best of both worlds...it's really your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 What do you mean? All i'm pointing out is you can only run V Brakes on the Element, so if you're okay with that then go for it. With the Hex you can either run the Maguras it comes with (like most triasl riders run) or get adapters to run V-brakes. Best of both worlds...it's really your call. Sweet, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Not strictly true - just like you can run a vee on magura mounts you can run a magura on vee mounts. It's very possible, but just works slightly better in the former Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 True...i just discount EVO mounts as i've never thought much to them, and it seems like a bit of a backward way of aproaching, when as you say the 4 bolt mount gives you the better compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCaptain Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) All right, so bottom line. So the 26" Element will be fine for getting the basics of Street Trials ? I'm sorry for the nagging but It's just that I'm worried that I'll get wrong the bike and be turned off by trials, which I don't want to happen. Since It looks so much fun. Edited September 23, 2011 by TheCaptain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 The 26" Element will be more than suitable for learning the basics of trials. It'll get you to a point where you'll know what you might want to change due to personal preference, rather than having to upgrade due to unsuitable parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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