feedmemoar Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Ive got some spokes from tartybikes for my profile hub and echo urban rim, ive got 177 length spokes and its circled as 4 cross. I can build wheels but don't no how to lace up a 4 cross, there's only tutorials on 3 cross. But when looking around online most people are saying that 4 cross is mainly used for 48 spoke wheels and it puts to much stress on the spokes. So im told to try 3 cross but don't want to waste my time as spokes could be too long? And if 4 cross is good then why is there nothing online to show how it's done? Any comments welcome as i wana get it sorted and ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 There's no specific guide as it's exactly the same as 3x, but you cross over one more spoke. 3x is the most common type so that's why you see that so often. 4x isn't weaker either - it seems people love making stuff up when it comes to wheelbuilds. I've run wheels in the past laced 4x and had no problems at all, and there's no reason it shouldn't work fine. Those spokes are also going to be too long for 3x by quite a big margin (think it was under 170mm for 3x on one side...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedmemoar Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Ah ok, thanks for the reply. So i basically start lacing the same but when i come to adding the second set i go over 3 and under the 4th spoke? As opposed to over 2 and under the third for a 3 cross? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Pretty much, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 not sure how you lace wheels, but if you do it the way of counting 3 holes to the left of the center for the first spoke, you'll need to count 4 holes for 4 cross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clugash Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I would keep it 3 cross! 4 cross makes the wheel to stiff less give for hard landings etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I would keep it 3 cross! 4 cross makes the wheel to stiff less give for hard landings etc allofmywut.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 I would keep it 3 cross! 4 cross makes the wheel to stiff less give for hard landings etc well he can't do it 3 cross if he has spokes for 4 cross, having a wheel "too stiff for hard landings" is kinda false, a stiff wheel is awesome for everything, BMXs have used 4 cross builds as the accepted way of building wheels for years and their wheels cope fine with landing (most of the time anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedmemoar Posted September 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 wWll i put it together, but noticed where my spokes snapped before the rim has got some cracks, so time to bin it and get a new one, but i have a profile hub (36 spoke) and finding a rim available for that is a nightmare, tarty dont have the try-all one in stock. And 4 cross is a nightmare if you snap a spoke as can't just take it out and add a new one, as the spokes cross over the hub, so i will be asking for a 3 cross next time. I do appreciate all the comments though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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