Duncy H Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Bonjour guys and gals, I'm thinking of going for a change by selling up my bikes and starting a fresh. I had an idea to make an all rounder type of bike that could handle a bit of abuse while putting up with street and pure trial moves. With this in mind I though a nice specced hex with a bar and stem somewhere in the middle in terms of length and rise might be going in the right direction. What are peoples opinions of running this kind of bike? I currently have a stock and 24 so just switch between them both whenever the mood takes me. Any tips or opinions on getting this sort of set up or do you reckon I am better off sticking to my guns here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Read me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted August 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Read me. I've taken a look at that, but it doesn't really answer my long winded question. See he's had to make two bikes rather than my question of making one bike to do everything, I think i'll still fire him a few questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 My hex does both. I haven't changed a part on it for 8 months... I can hop, tap, gap, hook etc but also spin (lack of skills here mind) footjam and manual.... It's the best frame currently available for being an all rounder, and I would stick to the inspired fork with it too (best fork currently available) 38mm wide rims and Larsen super tackys 2.35 roll really well but actually grip too. No more than a 90mm stem and some hi rise bars and you are pretty much there. 22:18ish ratio seems about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 pretty much what Rowan said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzyyyy Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 My hex does both. I haven't changed a part on it for 8 months... I can hop, tap, gap, hook etc but also spin (lack of skills here mind) footjam and manual.... It's the best frame currently available for being an all rounder, and I would stick to the inspired fork with it too (best fork currently available) 38mm wide rims and Larsen super tackys 2.35 roll really well but actually grip too. No more than a 90mm stem and some hi rise bars and you are pretty much there. 22:18ish ratio seems about right. VIDEO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintsauce Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 he's had to make two bikes rather than my question of making one bike to do everything To clear things up from the post that Ross linked you to... The only reason I am building two bikes is for a specific project that requires two bikes on the same day. Short version of the story: I had two bikes (Echo & Inspired) so could have done the project IMO the Inspired is waaay more fun to ride than the Echo As such I arranged with Dave & Jon to use two Inspired bikes I think the Inspired Hex is the best all round trials bike that is currently available The only caveat that I would add to that is that I am a pretty old school rider and so my entire trials apprenticeship was served on fairly 'traditional' designs (e.g. Cannondale Ashton, Giant Team trials, Onza Woodstock). I think the Hex took all the lessons learned from the old school traditional designs and sprinkled just enough new school in there to come up with a winning recipe. That's why it is perfect for me personally (I mean look how psyched I was back in Sept 2010 before I'd even ridden one!). It might seem like a simple thing to do, and also quite a 'safe' bet, but some other manufacturers have tried and failed. I actually believe that what Inspired did wasn't safe at all but in the mixture they created they took some fairly big risks (search out the threads where Ali discusses the changes he made throughout the prototype stage and you'll see what I mean). The risky geo tweaks have paid off I think and it's is amazing fun to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 thank god they listened to me then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 The more of a compromise between two styles of riding your bike is, the harder it is to reach your full potential in either area. It'd be more fun, and would let you do a bit of everything very well, but it would be harder to sidehop than a TGS/Comp machine, but would also be harder to spin than a pure street bike. It would also be easier to sidehop than a street bike, and easier to spin than a TGS/Comp bike. At a lower level of riding, it has the advantages of both types of bike, but if you progress and want to get bigger/better, you'll get the hindrances of both types of bike. If you ride for fun rather than for progressing - it'd be great. But if you ride with the main intent of improving skills, and having fun whilst doing so, it'd not be ideal. (This does not seem to be true if you're an absolute monster - which both Rowan and Ali above deffinately are ) (This is also in MY experience. Perhaps it's different for others. I hope the way I've written it all makes sense...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 In fairness, everyone who I've seen who used to ride another frame and have switched to a Hex appear to have improved quite a bit. Shrewsbury seemed to settle into his Hex super quickly and started doing some awesome lines when we rode together. Bearing in mind how big people used to go on what would today be not much more than a dirt jump bike, I don't think it's that big a handicap in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted August 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Thanks for all the help, you've pretty much told me what I wanted to hear. I think I will be buying the frame in the for sale section and build it up using my speedraces parts and when I can swap for my desired parts, e.g I want to go front disc, more sturdy wheels and a different stem and bar. I am keeping the awesome speedrace frame for a rainy day though if things don't go to plan I'd probably end up running 18:15 which equates to 1.2 rather than 22:18 which is 1.22222 so I guess I wouldn't notice too much difference. I think the geo will suit me as I never really liked the modern geo bikes, however I did like my speedrace but that isn't extreme geo type. I never particularly felt held back too much in terms of typical trial moves on my streety rigs i have had, even brakless. However I prefer the idea of 26" wheels. Anymore tips for getting the right setup would be a bonus, cheers for the help. Edited August 26, 2011 by Duncy H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Rightio taken a few more steps to getting a hex all in one piece. I've sourced a frame, seat set up and tensioner, i will be using trialtech cranks with 18t eno and fixed 15t on the rear. I am lined up to get some high rise trialtechs too and maybe some inspired forks. I planned on using parts from my compy style build until i could afford more ideal parts. The parts concerning me that i plan to use are a trialtech sl rear rim, front radial build wheel, trialtech 120x20 stem and try-all and continental tyres. I am mostly concerned about the rims and wheelbuilds as i don't want to end up trashing them I am just basically after some tips and hints and what to expect from a build using them parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 The longer stem will make it a tad more 'trialsy' than ideal really, but will work just fine - with High Rise bars it might push things pretty skyward Those tyres will work fine - they'll be a tad more sluggish and have a bit more rolling resistance than something like a set of Holy Rollers but pumped up a bit they'll do the 'hybridy' thing pretty well. The wheelbuilds are the thing that stands out most to me though - are you planning on hanging onto them or replacing them with something a little more suited? If the latter then selling those should make funds for a decent set of more streety wheels for the Hex without any significant extra monies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncy H Posted August 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 The longer stem will make it a tad more 'trialsy' than ideal really, but will work just fine - with High Rise bars it might push things pretty skyward Those tyres will work fine - they'll be a tad more sluggish and have a bit more rolling resistance than something like a set of Holy Rollers but pumped up a bit they'll do the 'hybridy' thing pretty well. The wheelbuilds are the thing that stands out most to me though - are you planning on hanging onto them or replacing them with something a little more suited? If the latter then selling those should make funds for a decent set of more streety wheels for the Hex without any significant extra monies I would be wanting to replace them ideally, or at least the rear rim and build the front wheel stronger onto a disc hub but no one seems to want to buy them. Sounds like if i take care then they should hold up ok for the time being. The wheels will be the first thing I address then the stem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 id get the inspired rims or a decent street/dj rim. the brake spacing it a little to close, You can use the tensile offset mounts,i find these clamps push the slave cylinders out to far and my shoes alweys got hooked on my brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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