Davetrials Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Searched for a few things can somebody link me to if they find it please cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 If you have something to post in it then just start a new thread (not another 'The' thread please!) rather than bump an ancient topic. If you just want to read up then I think it was it called something like 'body building' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Cheers man, i thought the opposite i didn't wanna clog the place up with questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 i didn't wanna clog the place up with questions clog away, its the whole point of chit chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 After doing bicep curls my left forearm absolute kills. Not in mid flow, but when I release the dumbbell I get a shooting pain down the underside of my forearm. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) The weight isn't just affecting your bicep, your forearm supports your wrist which is supporting the weight. You've either just started lifting or you've jumped up a lot in what you lift. Your right forearm is used to it from wanking probably. I'm downplaying the shooting pain quite a lot there by the way. If it's a real shooting pain, maybe your hand is releasing blood clots as punishment. Edited August 25, 2011 by MonsieurMonkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I see, cheers. Would those squeezy things help? Look like clamps that you put on barbells to keep the weight on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 They do to some extent. If you really want to build up your wrists, get a weight (Bar disk works perfectly due to the hole), some rope and a stick/bar, join the stick and weight with some rope and wind it up, like just twist it so the ropes wrapping around the bar and you're bringing the weight up. Do that one hand at a time. Harder to explain than I thought it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I understand yeah. Reminds me of something I would have done at scouts for fun lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Make sure you have your arm out straight in front of you, like you were pointing, and get the "rope" so the weight is off the floor from the start but pretty much at it. Obviously vary the weight of the disk based on what you can do, but you realistically want to be able to wind it so the weight is at your "bar" then back down again before you need to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 where do you find the motivation to get over the "just about in shape point", i get to it every few months, decided i want to show it off, go out and eat and drink too much for 2 months and put on like 2 stone, rinse and repeat. that is all i need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Work hard and want it I guess, at least you can bounce up and down between fit and not so fit, some people struggle to get anywhere near fit and if they don't keep the work up they lose it. Just set yourself goals, like how much you wanna lift, how many sets/reps you want to lift etc. I can lift pretty well when I stick to it, but I can't run long distance at all. I've got a lot of explosive strength, not much endurance. Different types of muscle fibres, but I can't remember which is which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) Never ran competitively before. I've got a 5k race on Saturday at 9am and I never really run in the morning. Anyway, what'd be the best intake in the form of foods and fluids to have before the run? Edited August 25, 2011 by Hannah Shucksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I'm pretty sure I've read that you do 5k pretty often, so are you just running 5k, or are you wanting to win the race? Either way you just want to load on good carbs, I'd go with pasta a few hours before and a banana if you want something else, but I love bananas. Water fluid wise. I'm not great on nutrition to be honest, I eat absolute shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I can lift pretty well when I stick to it, but I can't run long distance at all. im big enough that i dont need to run. the trouble is, i never find goals work, because if its to be a certain weight, i always end up losing loadsa muscle(my holiday photos show this).and with lifting a certain weight, i find its easy to do it if i pile on the lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) Yeah I usually do a 5k, 10k or 13k if I just want that little bit of extra mileage. It's just one of the Parkrun's which I've heard aren't that competitive but I'd still like to be within the top 40% of runners. I achieved a new 5K PB at 21.something minutes the other day which is about 3 minutes more than my usual average. Haven't been able to do it since and I've no idea what I did differently apart from letting my mind wander instead of focussing on what my watch says. I'm not wanting a new PB at the run nor is there ANY way I'll be breaking the fastest female runner record of 19:18! I just want to run the best I can without feeling completely drained and angry at myself afterwards for not doing as well as I know I could have. I do tend to have half a banana an hour before I run and I make sure I'm always hydrated but I'm not too clued up on nutrition. Edited August 25, 2011 by Hannah Shucksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 im big enough that i dont need to run. the trouble is, i never find goals work, because if its to be a certain weight, i always end up losing loadsa muscle(my holiday photos show this).and with lifting a certain weight, i find its easy to do it if i pile on the lbs. Then push yourself harder, what's the most you can bicep curl in 3 sets of 20s? And what's the most you can do in 3 sets of 7? You need a mix of cardio and weights it seem, with a focus on the weights. That'd mean you could keep the strength and muscle size while being able to drop the fat via the cardio. Yeah I usually do a 5k, 10k or 13k if I just want that little bit of extra mileage. It's just one of the Parkrun's which I've heard aren't that competitive but I'd still like to be within the top 40% of runners. I achieved a new 5K PB at 21.something minutes the other day which is about 3 minutes more than my usual average. Haven't been able to do it since and I've no idea what I did differently apart from letting my mind wander instead of focussing on what my watch says. I'm not wanting a new PB at the run nor is there ANY way I'll be breaking the fastest female runner record of 19:18! I just want to run the best I can without feeling completely drained and angry at myself afterwards for not doing as well as I know I could have. I do tend to have half a banana an hour before I run and I make sure I'm always hydrated but I'm not too clued up on nutrition. Like I said I'm not too good on nutrition, go with pasta about 2 hours before if you can stomach pasta that early, if not just go with bananas. From what I remember the banana is one of the foods that you can live off without anything else. You're running for the wrong reasons, if you don't run well on a specific day don't worry about it. Like you said it does vary sometimes, you could have been warmed up better, you might have had better nutrition in your body at the time etc. So many variables unless you have a really strict diet, route and regime. I'm assuming you're not super strict with yourself or I would have thought you'd be getting more consistent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I stick to both route and routine as I have done for about 4 months now. I think the nutritional side of things is where I let myself down. Think I'll skip on the pasta prior to run, I'll end up chundering everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Last time I ran, I got about 1.2k in and was sick, all I'd had was water. But like I said, my body doesn't deal with running or anything well at all. Do you go to a gym? Some gyms can give a lot of good information, while some are incredibly shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Nope I don't. Not enough pennies! I extract everything from Women's Running UK magazine usually. I've been internetless for about the past 8 months (at my mum's now incase you were wondering) so I don't ever really get a chance to even Google anything. Chris is a runner but all of his recommendations never seem to bode well with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 No idea who Chris is, but if he's a runner I'm sure he can help a lot more than I can with this, like on nutrition etc. It's something I'm not hugely interested in, all the sports I've liked have never really required endurance so I've never focused on it. Have a look at this. Pretty good site I know some people use, hopefully it'll help. Copy and paste as much as you can into Word or save the pages so you don't need the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Cheers! I somehow managed to miss that page during a quick scout about earlier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Nutrition. Fluids load up the day before, before racing/running/xc cycling I load up at least 2 litres extra in a few hours in the evening. Stick to what you know on the run, If you normally run without, run without. If you'd like to take something, just water, you need to get your body used to digesting other stuff during exertion. ( Food, carb carb carbs. If you plan the day ahead, hit pasta, avoid heavy meat, chicken and fish are fine. but mainly lots of (fresh stuff Is best )pasta in the evening. Morning- I'm a cereal man, so that, banana and just cos its an excuse to eat it at 8am, raw jelly (again bad if you're not used to it but like jelly babies, people love em for race nutrition). I also sometimes go for a Powerbar, or similar like the 'eat natural' fruit/nut bars Raceday- keep the fluid intake up until about an hour before then just sip to maintain. don't eat stuff, no need on that distance really. I took on jelly babies on the Half, never normally eat on distances up to 11 miles. The cramps very nearly brought me to my knees and f**ked my breathing while trying to eat and swallow. bad times Recovery, just as important if you want to get faster. Protein shake!!!! within 15min ideally. and again good carbs and proteins, pasta, fish/chicken greens and oddly I have a thing for porridge after heavy expenditures of energy. Please correct me anyone if I'm wrong, it'll help me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Get some your self on some bananas, they release energy slowly though the time of your workout, ideal food like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Shucksmith Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Raceday- keep the fluid intake up until about an hour before then just sip to maintain. don't eat stuff, no need on that distance really. I did wonder. It'll be around 14 hours since I'll have eaten from the night before so was wondering if that would make any difference as am used to night runs and obviously nomming throughout the day. Think I might stick to the banana though - I'm prone to cramps! Chars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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