tintin Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Are these any good ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 This is what a couple of replies with the exact same question as you said on a MTB forum: "I've used Leaches in the past - better on low pressure MTB tubes, - won't work above 60 PSI...." "I used self-adhesive ones once. I ended up treating them as normal ones to get them to stick. " Personally I'd stick with the ones that you glue on yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Shortage Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 (edited) Used 4 on the same puncture on my BMX in the space of 20 minutes, ended up bodging it as a normal patch and gluing it down. I like relatively low PSI on my BMX, especially as I was using one of those awful hand pumps, so pressure can't have had too much of an affect. Edited August 20, 2011 by Dwarf Shortage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leistonbmx Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 I've used leeches at 120 psi fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 I haven't used any self-adhesive pads that last more than a few hours, but I haven't used these ones. In theory there's no reason why self-adhesive should be any worse than standard ones, but they just don't seem to work in the real world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leistonbmx Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Because rubber patches can stretch. These are like foam so stretch very little. People put them on with the tube deflated then pump up. tube stretching more than patch= it blowing off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin Posted August 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Cheers for the info the park tool ones I've used seem good but it was just price comparing as I can get lots of these of ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Because rubber patches can stretch. These are like foam so stretch very little. People put them on with the tube deflated then pump up. tube stretching more than patch= it blowing off. Yeah sure. I guess what I should have said is that there's no reason why it should be impossible to make some proper rubber self-adhesive patches. But you're right they're all foamy and crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Doesnt the ones with glue vulcanise with the rubber aswell so it like melts together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 I've found the Leeches ones to be pretty good, work fine for anythings that's not a massive pinch puncture for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 In the last 10 years of riding bikes, I've had probably 100 pinch punctures, and approximately zero thorns/glass/whatever else. So a patch that works except on pinches is next to useless to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 In the last 10 years of riding bikes, I've had probably 100 pinch punctures, and approximately zero thorns/glass/whatever else. So a patch that works except on pinches is next to useless to me.Lucky you! In the last 4-5 rides I have had 2 slow punctures caused by thorns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Do you think these will be ok http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=330595601293&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=58678829878 Or just get the park tool ones ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 What is the problem with a good old fashioned puncture repair kit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 What is the problem with a good old fashioned puncture repair kit? I've found that the glue isn't good in some kits so after putting the tube back in ect then pump it up it blows off , sometimes it's ok but a tryed and tested patch is less hassle some times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Lucky you! In the last 4-5 rides I have had 2 slow punctures caused by thorns It's probably just where I've been riding - it's all rocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I've found that the glue isn't good in some kits so after putting the tube back in ect then pump it up it blows off , sometimes it's ok but a tryed and tested patch is less hassle some times You're doing it wrong then... and maybe you should use good quality repair kits rather than the shitty free puncture repair kits from the cover of MBUK It's probably just where I've been riding - it's all rocky.Damn you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I've found that the glue these days because of health and safety don't stick well there was a kit I used to get I never had any problems but they stopped making it but I'll see what's on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Your supposed to leave the glue to go tacky before sticking a patch to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I have been using Rema Tip Top stuff for years. If the patches are popping off the simple answer is, you are doing something wrong! Usually it would be caused by not cleaning and keying the tubes surface before applying the glue and patch, or like has just been said you are not allowing the glue to go tacky before sticking the patch on. Personally I always carry 2 spare tubes with me out on the trail as well as a puncture repair kit. That way I rarely have to repair a tube on the side of the trail, I just fit a new tube then when I get home I spend time properly repairing the punctured tube and use it as a spare on the next ride. Or you could be lazy like loads of people I know and just bin the punctured tube and never bother to fix punctures, although I don't understand why people do this unless it is a really bad split in the tube! I usually repair a tube a number of times before I bin it but each to their own I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 be lazy like loads of people I know and just bin the punctured tube and never bother to fix punctures, although I don't understand why people do this unless it is a really bad split in the tube! I do this. I know it's massively lazy, but it's easy, and £20 for 10 inner tubes will last me at least a year. It does make me feel slightly uneasy (environmentally) throwing away that much rubber, but I've had too many problems with repaired tubes in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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