Jake. Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) I use these cranks, http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/cranks_pair/tryall_isis/c514p52.html This freewheel, http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/complete_freewheels/tryall_1089/c16p2035.html Edit: And this is the bashring, http://www.selectbikes.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=21 Edit2: I think this is the BB, not sure which size. http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/isis_splined_bbs/tryall_isis_with_bolts/c2p10.html Will I be able to do it? And how could I put the bashring on? At the moment it's just the freewheel & cranks on my isis bb. Help would be MUCH appreciated! Edited August 10, 2011 by OnzaKid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexxRogers Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 ''- Wide threaded section on the 170mm and 175mm arms only allows a bashguard to be used also. Please note that the 160mm and 165mm cranks are to be used with a freewheel or sprocket only (no bashring) as they have shorter threads.'' As for putting the bashring on, take your freewheel off your cranks, slide the ring on, and put your freewheel back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 ''- Wide threaded section on the 170mm and 175mm arms only allows a bashguard to be used also. Please note that the 160mm and 165mm cranks are to be used with a freewheel or sprocket only (no bashring) as they have shorter threads.'' As for putting the bashring on, take your freewheel off your cranks, slide the ring on, and put your freewheel back on. Slide the bashring onto the cranks? I'm pretty sure that cranks don't have any thread except internal thread to go onto the BB, you mean take the cranks off then put the bashring on, then put the cranks back on? Sorry for my confusion, I'm trying to figure out how to do this. I also heard FFW's are a pain to get off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexxRogers Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Slide the bashring onto the cranks? I'm pretty sure that cranks don't have any thread except internal thread to go onto the BB, you mean take the cranks off then put the bashring on, then put the cranks back on? Sorry for my confusion, I'm trying to figure out how to do this. I also heard FFW's are a pain to get off. Take your freewheel off your cranks, the threaded section that the freewheel came off, slide the ring onto that section then screw the freewheel back onto the cranks. Therefore the freewheel holds the bashring onto the cranks. I've attached an image to help you. Are you cranks 160/5mm or 170/5mm? They can be, there's a tutorial on Tartybikes that'll help you out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I think I half understand now, I believe they're 165 but not sure. Will update with this later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 165 is probaly a no go then, you should realy give proper specs when you ask questions like this or it goes round in circles before ou get a proper answer lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Off Topic: Just out of interest is this the same huy you brought your xtp off? My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 165 is probaly a no go then, you should realy give proper specs when you ask questions like this or it goes round in circles before ou get a proper answer lol 165 only relates to how long the cranks are, weather you can run a bashring of not is a width problem. 165 is probaly a no go then, you should realy give proper specs when you ask questions like this or it goes round in circles before ou get a proper answer lol 165 only relates to how long the cranks are, weather you can run a bashring of not is a width problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 165 only relates to how long the cranks are, weather you can run a bashring of not is a width problem. 165 only relates to how long the cranks are, weather you can run a bashring of not is a width problem. on these particular cranks there is a note saying that you may have difficulties fitting bashguards on the 165mm versions with a freewheel. I know ive just bought some (170mm) i was guna provide a link but the page for those cranks isnt there anymore lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 165 is probaly a no go then, you should realy give proper specs when you ask questions like this or it goes round in circles before ou get a proper answer lol Checked the cranked today and they are 165mm. Off Topic: Just out of interest is this the same huy you brought your xtp off? My link I believe so yes, he took a picture of my Koxx in the same place as that one. Why? 165 only relates to how long the cranks are, weather you can run a bashring of not is a width problem. on these particular cranks there is a note saying that you may have difficulties fitting bashguards on the 165mm versions with a freewheel. I know ive just bought some (170mm) i was guna provide a link but the page for those cranks isnt there anymore lol So why would you have problems with shorter cranks? It's not like they're wider... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 i would double check! but im sure i read that there are not as many threads or they are not threded (165mm version), but dont just take my word for it check a mmore reliable source. im sure you can run a freewheel but mabye it wasnt recommended to run a bash aswell because of the lack of threads. basicly work it out this way... can you get a bash on and still have at least 7 threads for the freewwheel to screw on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) no real reason it was just out of iterest. You will have problems with shorter cranks because there aren't enough threads to support a bash and freewheel as stated on tartybikes. from tarty. Wide threaded section on the 170mm and 175mm arms only allows a bashguard to be used also. Please note that the 160mm and 165mm cranks are to be used with a freewheel or sprocket only (no bashring) as they have shorter threads. Edited August 12, 2011 by bike_dummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) no real reason it was just out of iterest. You will have problems with shorter cranks because there aren't enough threads to support a bash and freewheel as stated on tartybikes. from tarty. Wide threaded section on the 170mm and 175mm arms only allows a bashguard to be used also. Please note that the 160mm and 165mm cranks are to be used with a freewheel or sprocket only (no bashring) as they have shorter threads. Damn! Why would they be any different? That's silly... Edited August 12, 2011 by OnzaKid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Damn! Why would they be any different? That's silly... 26" = 170 and 175 = bashring. 20" = 160 and 165 = bashplate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 26" = 170 and 175 = bashring. 20" = 160 and 165 = bashplate. Ah I see now... Was half expecting you or Mark to reply, cheers! Will be trying to fit a ring on anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Will be trying to fit a ring on anyway. Ok - but you will strip the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 i know a few people running bashring on 165 tryall cranks, there threads havent stripped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 glue a bit of aluminium to you free wheel and hope for the best! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 glue a bit of aluminium to you free wheel and hope for the best! lol C'mon if we're going to bodge lets do it properly - duck tape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 ive just fitted an echo sl to my 170mm's about half hour ago with a tarty brand bashguard + a trial tech freewheel spacer, the bash and spacer are probably 5 or 6mm and the echo went on lovely. if the threads are shorter on the 160/165's it would go on but just wouldnt be as strong, remeber under pressure the freewheel would try and twist off the threads wereas if it is screwed right on there is no leverage when it tries to twist. realy its a case of do you want to risk it. possible outcomes *it all works and your good! *your hurt yourself when the freewheel pulls off at the top of a 15 ft wall + you will need a new crank arm and possibly freewheel + any other parts that get damaged in the fall! lol :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Unless you're doing it for chainline reasons, you don't really need the spacer between the bashring and the freewheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Unless you're doing it for chainline reasons, you don't really need the spacer between the bashring and the freewheel. True! I put mine in for a better chain line because im using a longer BB with inbuild spacers. stil the spacer is only 1.7mm. Edited August 13, 2011 by DeVal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 ive just fitted an echo sl to my 170mm's about half hour ago with a tarty brand bashguard + a trial tech freewheel spacer, the bash and spacer are probably 5 or 6mm and the echo went on lovely. if the threads are shorter on the 160/165's it would go on but just wouldnt be as strong, remeber under pressure the freewheel would try and twist off the threads wereas if it is screwed right on there is no leverage when it tries to twist. realy its a case of do you want to risk it. possible outcomes *it all works and your good! *your hurt yourself when the freewheel pulls off at the top of a 15 ft wall + you will need a new crank arm and possibly freewheel + any other parts that get damaged in the fall! lol :) :) Haha that put some sense into me, I might consider getting some longer cranks then. Are Middleburns any good? And how will crank size affect my riding? There's 160mm, 165, 170 and 175... That's 2 whole CM's of difference to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Though you had a ffw? I use echo 7075's they seem very good so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Haha that put some sense into me, I might consider getting some longer cranks then. Are Middleburns any good? And how will crank size affect my riding? There's 160mm, 165, 170 and 175... That's 2 whole CM's of difference to choose from. Middleburns use a spline system for their bash/cogs so you won't be able to screw a freewheel/cog on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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