JD™ Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Leonardo Da Vinci deduced that perpetual motion is not possible. And he'd know, cus he had a sexy ass beard. On this planet, at least... And I mean perpetual motion not being possible, not that he only has a sexy ass beard on this planet. As a side note: I am clean shaven facially, but I have a sexy arse beard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Second law of thermodynamics. End of discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 What if the balloons where close together and the tank was more conical shaped..So the balloons formed a seal with the sides of the tank and then moved up to a wider section and the next balloon down then formed the seal, say have 3 or 4 balloons forming the seal at once..etc..I might draw a picture.. If the machine was 100% friction free, the machine would only move if you applied a force to start with. Then it would work. However, if it was 100% friction free, you wouldn't even need the system, you'd just spin the wheel on the generator and it would spin forever. But going back to the floaty ball thing, even if friction was somehow dropped to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% friction (aka virtually non), it still wouldn't work. The energy crated from the ball floating up would be exactly equal to the energy needed to lift the balls into and out of the water against gravity, the less friction the system has, the longer it would take the system to come to a stop after than initial force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I prefer non-friction. Friction is pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 If the machine was 100% friction free, the machine would only move if you applied a force to start with. Then it would work. However, if it was 100% friction free, you wouldn't even need the system, you'd just spin the wheel on the generator and it would spin forever. But going back to the floaty ball thing, even if friction was somehow dropped to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% friction (aka virtually non), it still wouldn't work. The energy crated from the ball floating up would be exactly equal to the energy needed to lift the balls into and out of the water against gravity, the less friction the system has, the longer it would take the system to come to a stop after than initial force. That's not what a frictionless generator would do. Any energy/force you put in one end you would get out 100% at the other end. Attatch the genrerator to anything and the spinning wheel stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I probably should have said residence free, considering no friction, air resistance, and no magnetic resistance either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I probably should have said residence free, considering no friction, air resistance, and no magnetic resistance either. But a generator can't create power without a force acting on something. You can't just get energy out of perpetual motion by decreasing resistance, not even hypothetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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