Rusevelt Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Bumping this post to see if peoples views have changed about the idea of a 105bb being more accepted a year on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'd like to try it. Im pretty open to trying new geo's. I never thought anything +60 would be good for me. Rode a +70 Ice 2, and then went back to a +55 GU ST and it was fine. +80 Echo Lites feel good too, as does my +70 24". So long as the bar and stem complements the rise, it should be ok. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I think it looks hidious (spelling?) just doesn't look right atall. Would probally look a bit better if it was on a ozonys curve or a single tube typed design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) The full geo: Geometry Wheelbase: 1000 BB: 105 Chainstay: 350 Headangle: 71.5 Rear Hub spaced at 116mm Headtube lenght is 110mm Disc mounts: IS type Rear Disc Size: 160mm Weight: 1.20kg and from what i can work out, the original page: http://velotrial.com...новлена/ Edited October 19, 2012 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Personally, I can't bear anything other than +70 now Go on some +55 mods and they feel obscure. Go on some +90 and they feel spastic. Maybe it's because they're not my bike and I'm a geo-nazi, or maybe +70 is just the best BB height for a mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 had a few mod frames now 05 zoo python(Cnc one) not sure of bb height, think its +60 +55 09 onza blade +50 07 echo team +70 ( I think?) 10 rockman Austin blade feels by far the nicest to ride, has the perfect wb at 1015, and it the lightest mod I've ever owned, at 8.4 kg. rockman felt very strange, but up on the back wheel I can see why they build them like that. makes sense. wouldnt like to ride owt higher than 70 though, doesn't in my opinion feel like it'd be nice to ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customrider-Rhys Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 HAY GUIZ LOOK AT MY PROTO there appears to be a pedal on the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Morrison Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 +70 ( I think?) 10 rockman Austin wouldnt like to ride owt higher than 70 though, doesn't in my opinion feel like it'd be nice to ride Austin has a +80 bb rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Austin has a +80 bb rise my mistake, for I am not the font of all trials bike related knowledge. I'll retrospectively change it to +80 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 +80 Echo Lites feel good too, as does my +70 24". So long as the bar and stem complements the rise, it should be ok. That last bit is true to an extent, however there are obviously limits. Even if you keep the hands/feet relationship similar, a bike is always going to ride differently with a high BB - you're still raising your centre of gravity up and that's going to affect how a bike rides. I'm still not super keen on mega high BB mod frames just because it always feels like you can't really preload for gaps and power moves like that much because it just wants to loop straight away. Mods feel pretty mong on 2 wheels at the best of times, so with you being that bit higher up again I can't really see it being great. The only benefits people talk about are it being "nice on the back wheel", but it's a mod - they're so small they're very rarely difficult to back hop. With stocks it sort of makes more sense because they're more barge-like and require a bit more heft to keep them on the back wheel, but mods are so dinky you can pretty much make them do whatever you want. For most trials riders, backhopping and being on the back wheel isn't something that they find 'hard' as such, so it doesn't make sense to compromise setup for the hard stuff by making the easy stuff easier. From a 'taking over the world' point of view, high BB shit sells so hopefully they keep on raising it up 'til you need a step ladder (or a small wall) to get onto your bike. Just get a higher stem maaate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 For most trials riders, backhopping and being on the back wheel isn't something that they find 'hard' as such, so it doesn't make sense to compromise setup for the hard stuff by making the easy stuff easier. Best statement ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 a few years ago +55 was normal and you would of thought +80 was abit too high, now +80 is normal +105 seems abit too high? i suppose you cant really comment til you try it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I started trials on an onza rip 09, I think that had a pretty low bb. I got more and more into high bb bikes and I'm now comfortable around 80, I'd love to try this mod out... And if the frame was cheap enough I'd buy one myself to try, I'd be surprised if bb heights went above 120ish. I can see 105 being too high for a lot of people, but if you don't play with geometry you won't discover anything new! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 I'd love to try 105. But my +80 or +85 is it? rockman manus feels amazing on the back wheel, literally can stay on it forever. I can't see why I would eve go to a lower B2B now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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