Joshm1991 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hey guys!! So I got my single speed conversion done today and when I got the bike home, someone told me over facebook that my new half link chain was on backwards.. (Yeah.. I'm a fool I know!! Donkey ears are on as we speak!!) Now my question is, will it cause any damage to the chain itself, the tensioner or any of the cogs? I dont really want to ride it any more for fear I might break somthing!! I'm lending a chain splitter on thursday so I can correct it but untill then, is it safe/okay to ride?? Thanks in advance!! Joosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksnell95 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 should be alright i rode with my chain upside down for a few weeks and it was the same but it wast a halflink but it should be ok until you change it also would you be able to put some pictures up ? my friend has the same bike and is going to singlespeed so it could help him see what it looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshm1991 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Hi okay thanks for the help!! I'm just worried in case i wreck all my brand new gear!! And yeah heres some pictures of what mine looks like now!! Hope this helps!! Cheers Joosh EDIT: Sorry if they're a bit big but you can just save them and look at them in a reduced size on your computer Edited July 4, 2011 by Joshm1991 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Half-link chains are dangerous all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksnell95 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 thats looking rather nice my mate has one but he's still got gears on his :/ and is that the stock hub you still got on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshm1991 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Oh really Rockman?? What makes you say that?? Curious thats all!! Before I got it, all I heard was praise for them.. And now I have one, all I seem to find is that they're bad news!! What makes them so bad?? And yeah jacksnell95, it is the standard hub atm but I hope to change it in the future!! (When I get the money that is!! ) Cheers guys Joosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksnell95 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 ha the hubs are horrible arnt they you go to pedal hop and if ur unlucky you fail so bad :L but i think there nice bikes to ride and about the chain situation if it does snap this seems to be a pretty good chain with hardly any stretch chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 I go through chains like hell, I read that because they are half links, they stretch a different way which makes them weak, I found the best chain I have used to be a KMC K710. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshm1991 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 to be honest, I'm alright with my hubs as they are for the minute!! I'm only just learning the basics at the moment (rear wheel hopping, balancing properly etc) but I've had no problems with them so far!! I've only had it just over a month and I've had more than enough trouble with other things on it so im hoping after this, i'll have no more issues!! Touch wood that is!! And well thanks Rockman for your warning bout them!! I'll definatly keep an eye on it in the future but like I say, I'm no expert yet so I think it should hold out for now!! Thanks again guys Joosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joea Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 it dose not mater that the chain is the rong way round but half link chain are not then best chains to have on a trials bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshm1991 Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Thanks for your input joea!! I am certianly bearing everything said here in mind!! But, and not to repeat myself, I'm just starting out learning the basics so I'm pretty sure it'll do for now!! Thanks peoples!! Joosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 The inherent weakness in half link chains is that the crease in them tries to straighten out under tension, this work hardens the material and causes failure. In a conventional chain, all the tension is put through a flat plate which has no built in stress raisers. I cant see there being any problems with running the chain either way round. As you said it will more than likely do you fine as youre only beginning and not likely to be putting massive stress through the drivetrain. When you start learning to kick hard you should proabably change it to a Z610HX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyBox Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) im Jacksnell95's friend and thanks for the pics its handy. i heard that you couldnt use a single cog tensioner with mad phases but this has proved that wrong. also i see youve gone for an 18 tooth sprocket on the rear. is it a good ratio because i thought that would be best when i was looking. one last thing about your chain, ive just read a topic about someone who snapped their chain and a few people reccommended this. its not a bad price so i will be buying it soon i think. EDIT: do your grips hurt your hands? my hands were too big for them and they cut my hands after 2 hours of riding so ive now got rockman foams and theyre so nice to use. Edited July 5, 2011 by BurlyBox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tioz Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Would you guys go for a 22:16 gearing or 22:18 on a phase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howvard Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) this is the MAD phase trials bike you want Edited July 5, 2011 by howvard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyBox Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 i hate to burst your bubble but that rim looks honk. the wheel may be better as a whole spec wise but pink and blue? also i think all of us on this post have bikes already and the majority of us have mad phases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howvard Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 i hate to burst your bubble but that rim looks honk. the wheel may be better as a whole spec wise but pink and blue? also i think all of us on this post have bikes already and the majority of us have mad phases... haha yer no worrys dude im not saying buy it because i already have someone to buy it.... I love the pink rim Whats the spec of your phase then mate ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksnell95 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 this is the MAD phase trials bike you want i would rather rip my dick off a throw it in a river that own that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyBox Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) haha yer no worrys dude im not saying buy it because i already have someone to buy it.... I love the pink rim Whats the spec of your phase then mate ?? its a MAD Phase 1.2 which has all original parts except the grips which are rockman foams but hopefully next week i will get my tensioner and single speed kit and im gonna get the 4 jeri tensioner like the one in the pic above and the single speed kit is off superstar components and then im gonna get a hope evo pro II free hub before i kill myself from lack of engagement points EDIT: oh and it also has high roller front and rear tyres, and HS33's Edited July 5, 2011 by BurlyBox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howvard Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Nice mate im not hear to critisise anyone, and anyway i dont ride this anymore so. But mate your 1.2 sounds alright and a hope will be sweet are you upgradeing the rim or just rebuilding it? And also I think ripping your dick off because you dont like a bike is abit to far mate. Plus it would hurt like hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tioz Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 i would rather rip my dick off a throw it in a river that own that... I like it..very tarty It would look better with both rims the same colour though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyBox Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 i'm just gonna get a new hub and rebuild it with the same rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tioz Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 i'm just gonna get a new hub and rebuild it with the same rim I've just bought an echo SL rim but I'm keeping the same hub because I'm cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George6512 Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I had my chain like this for months and it was a halflink but it snapped on me about a month ago so i didnt trust it no more it had to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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