malcolm smith Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Here is 4 year 2 month old Malcolms newest video http://www.youtube.com/user/coweemtns?feature=mhee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 This is kinda disturbing... I feel sorry for the kid. I'm sure he enjoys it to a point but 4 year olds shouldn't be in 'training' or being taught/told to 'focus, focus, focus'. It also concerns me that on the biketrials bit you're just telling him to Go. Go. Go Go. Where's the 'good job, well done Malcolm (smile, hug, pat on the back)'? Ok, so you want your kid to be the next Travis Pastrana but let him actually be a kid not just an extreme sports athlete in training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm smith Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 His piano teacher says he needs more work on focus. i guess everyone has their own thoughts on kids. He practices, piano, golf and bikes 2 times a day each. He has mommy and daddy and grandpa, teaching him while other kids are in day care. Everyone must do what thy do. We choose to keep him busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Przemo Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 poor kid ... no kid life ... so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 to be honest if i had a trials bike and a motorbike when i was 4 id would have been made up! i also dont see anything wrong with strong encouragement. yes there are limits but sometimes its better to train kids in something they enjoy or kids just end up sat infront of the tv or playing video games. The amount of kids i know that have no practical knowledge of how to use tools etc and solve practical problems for themselves these days astounds me! crack on kid im sure we will cya in the comps in a few years time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t33zr Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 I have a 4yr old kid in my house... i would never do that to my kid....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 i dont c what the father has actually meant to have done? he's saying go go go to let the kid know to stay on the power. if he doesnt he will fall off and hurt himself. other than that i dont c wats wrong. if he was beating him because he would go out on his trials bike you may have a point but i dont think thats the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDâ„¢ Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 This makes me just as sick as last time. You are exploiting your son, for what reason I don't know. I'd go down the road of thinking it was due to your own failures leading to sitting around at home all day, except that you clearly have some cash. So the why I won't worry about too much. Fact is, you're giving too much structure to a 4 year old. If he was asking you twice a day to do each of his activities then cool, but he's clearly not - you've decided to make it 2 times each a day. Is that every day? Does this boys young bones and muscles get a chance to repair and recover? Don't forget that most of a child of that ages nutrients and energy go into building the body they will have for the rest of their life - they should not be needing to repair micro damages to bones and muscle tissue at that time too. No matter how 'fun' his activities are, what you're doing is a form of abuse as far as I'm concerned. The difference between this and locking him in a room is that you can pretend this one is healthy and 'what he wants', maybe it is - but probably only because he doesn't know anything else. On the bike trials bit, you can clearly see that he comes off the first balance beam and goes to give up or hear some words of encouragement. Instead he gets 'GO'. Then he gets the next move right, and looks back as if to go 'Wow, I did that, did you see that?' looking for some encouragement or congratulations for doing a move after just failing another. He instead gets 'GO'. I hate all the things I was told to do at 4 years old. Be careful with what you're doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I wouldn't see the problem if it wasn't "trainning". If it was just a video where there were no go's and more praising it would just be a kid having fun outdoors, but it all seems so forced and unnecessary to me. I bet he is better at golf than me mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDeathMonkey Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I would hate trials by now if i was brought up like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I agree with JD. Let him be a kid. The best thing about being a child is the freedom you have, before becoming an adult and working the 9-5. At 4, he isn't a prodigy. I had the stabilizers off my bike at 3, and by the age of 4 I was ragging my bike over all sorts of terrain. Let him be a kid. Back off and let him do the activities when he wants too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 We choose to keep him busy. YOU choose? Does he get a say in any of this? Sure, be encouraging, but don't force him into stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Poor kid. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) im agreeding with everyone else on this one...id happily gamble a decent amount that by his teenage years there will be a level of resentment - either towards yourself or the sports you push him so hard in (or both) an alleged christian too? that bit did make me smile... Luke 6:31 "Do to others as you would have them do to you." would you really like to have been on the recieving end when you were 4? seems a few members here wouldnt Edited June 10, 2011 by chris4stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_! Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 the father needs psychological help, he is paying his frustrations through his son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) What the hell.. he's barely got off the beams pallets or whatever and your telling him to "go go go" I'm f**king glad i'm not your kid!! Your far too controlling. He wont have a childhood poor kid Edited June 10, 2011 by Laurence--Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm smith Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I will take your advice and let him play video games all day long. Too bad you can not see the joy he gets in playing golf with his grandfather, practicing the piano with his mom and riding with his dad. I see the wisdom of letting kids do what they want every time I go to a mall. This little boy plays all day long with people who care about him. Thanks so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I dont think its the thing about him being on his bike, or playing golf or piano thats a problem, opposed to video games, it's the way it's done. I dont doubt he enjoys it at times, but everyday, twice a day? I dont think its the activities, I think its the approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 and you said he doesn't go to day care nersry (spelling) or whatever. Surly meaning he has no friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 One of the things that I like about trials is that I chose to do it myself. My parents never really pushed me to do sports or any activities, my mum also played the piano at that age and she still holds it against her parents for making her do it. Also he's not going to stand up to you about it most likely, so he isn't choosing to do it, although he may like it. And it seems quite dangerous to me, 4 year olds don't have the same amount of fear as us. Still, good riding, but as good as I'd expect him to be considering he 'trains'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm smith Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 It is funny I thought you guys might like to see what he is doing. I can keep it to myself. I could care less if he is doing trials in 10 years. As any of you see bike Trials are just a part of what he does. I am teaching all 2 wheeled riding so that he can make a choice. It is funny when people in MX see him they assume he will be a MX rider. When you guys see him you assume it is bike Trials. When Moto Trials people see him they assume it is Moto Trials. He happens to be good at golf and the piano. His friends are in the sports. It is funny, one of the top armature kids MX coaches said "be warned that if Malcolm gets good everyone will want part of him and everyone will hate you. You have to ignore both". I am raising him like I raised my older son who was a top whitewater Kayaker. He was a top US kid in the sport (3rd at 13, in 19 and under US Jr Nationals) and went on to the National Team. He is now in medical school. He still loves kayaking and goes as often as med school allows. He is 34 years old. As I said I thought you guys might like to see. I will keep it to myself. As for bike trials it is just another sport. He is good at them all and will probably do MX. The top MX coaches in the US are already showing interest. Thanks for your concern. Sorry I offended you. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_! Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 just i don't understand why a kid of 4 years old has to do so many things... he is only a kid, let him enjoy it without so many responsabilities. He has all his life to do all these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeVal Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 People are always trying to tell other people how to raise there kids! Your values are not his values and i know of people who have had similar upbringings that have go on to do great things in life walst the people who just sat around doing nothing as kids grew up to be the local burger flipper at Mc Donalds. its all a matter of personnal opinion realy, im sure malcolm is just proud of his lad and wanted to show off what he is capable of at the age of 4! i couldn't even ride a bike till i was 11! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 People are always trying to tell other people how to raise there kids! Your values are not his values and i know of people who have had similar upbringings that have go on to do great things in life walst the people who just sat around doing nothing as kids grew up to be the local burger flipper at Mc Donalds. its all a matter of personnal opinion realy, im sure malcolm is just proud of his lad and wanted to show off what he is capable of at the age of 4! i couldn't even ride a bike till i was 11! Fries with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Right, ive been riding motorbikes since i was about 5, and normal bikes since i was about 4. But not under pressure like that, i think its ridiculous. My dad allways asked me "Want to go for a razz on the quad?" or "what would you like to do today" Not all this focus nonsence. Yeah it helped me alot going out all weekend on a my qaud/moto trials bike but i wasnt under pressure... just think you have stretched a bit far. Give the kid a chance to live his own life a little! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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